Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abel Valdez

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. doesnt seem to be much point relisting since no one else commented since the last relisting. There is no clear consensus that GNG is or is not met at this stage. Fenix down (talk) 09:07, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Abel Valdez[edit]

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Article about footballer who made a few appearances in the Romanian and Paraguayan top divisions (both of which are considered fully-professional at WP:FPL). The online English-, Romanian-, and Spanish-language coverage of this footballer is entirely routine (poor guy suffered with swine flu while in Romania: [1]) and the presumption of notability in WP:FOOTBALL doesn't hold when there is such a comprehensive failure of WP:GNG. The article hasn't been improved in the past 10 years, and with the complete lack of significant coverage, there is no reason to believe it ever will. Jogurney (talk) 17:03, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:12, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Romania-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 00:04, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom, fails GNG which is more important than squeezing by on NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 09:02, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep I was not able to find anything on the internet for the majority of his WP:NFOOTY pass, his Paraguayan career, but I did add a couple of sources I found quickly to the article. SportingFlyer T·C 13:26, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep meets GNG with sources added since the nomination. Meets NFOOTBALL. Nfitz (talk) 20:18, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't understand how anyone would conclude that article meets the GNG. The prosport.ro transfer announcement article is the closest thing to significant coverage, but it reads as routine coverage to me (just a quick rundown of his prior career). Jogurney (talk) 17:06, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - The combination of that one, and the Gazeta Sporturilor, both a decade old, from a quick search for a player that meets WP:N does it, barely, for me. I'd think a detailed search would find more. Nfitz (talk) 18:50, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    - I respectfully disagree; the gsp.ro article is nothing more than a note about him contracting swine flu. I did a detailed search and found nothing that gives an impression of significant coverage. Jogurney (talk) 22:01, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – I don't see these as GNG, because they say almost nothing about this player. What are we going to write in our article? "Abel Valdez was signed in 2009 to Astra Ploieşti, played two games, and got the swine flu." (That is pretty close to what the article actually says.) We just don't need stand-alone pages for articles that won't grow beyond a few sentences, because nobody is writing secondary sources for us to summarize. – Levivich 03:47, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Consensus divided over whether to keep or delete.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ミラ P 18:13, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.