Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aame Katha

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~~The result was keep. Consensus reached is that this article passes WP:NFO. (non-admin closure) Curbon7 (talk) 05:06, 12 September 2021 (UTC)~~[reply]

Per this deletion review, the result has been revised to No consensus with no prejudice against speedy renomination. My apologies for the mistake. (non-admin closure) Curbon7 (talk) 03:35, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Aame Katha[edit]

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Non notable film, appears to fail WP:NFILM as nothing was found in a WP:BEFORE except film database sites, videos, and promo material.

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.--Filmomusico (talk) 22:28, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.--Filmomusico (talk) 22:28, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment One of a large set of similar AfDs on Indian films by this nominator, none of which were transcluded to a daily log. Fixing now--I am neutral on the nominations themselves. --Finngall ^talk 17:50, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 20:26, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 22:41, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Bold third relist. Previously nominated via WP:PROD, ineligible for soft deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 01:53, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:NFO, "the film has received a major award for excellence." Jayasudha won Filmfare Award for Best Actress – Telugu for the film. Source added in the article. -- Ab207 (talk) 15:04, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: passes WP:NFO for the award — DaxServer (talk to me) 15:54, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:NFILM, like all subject notability guides are refutable indications that the subject might be notable. In the case of this article, the subject has not evidence of significant coverage in reliable source in the article sources or searches. Therefore, the SNG is subordinated to GNG, which is not met. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 06:17, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That is why we have WP:NFO to determine "other evidence of notability". The first line itself notes A topic related to film may not meet the criteria of the general notability guideline, but significant coverage is not always possible to find on the Internet, especially for older films. The NFO asks to consider other criteria to find evidence of notability. Surely, it doesn't guarantee an article on WP, but it is an indication that there could be sources and one has to search, sometimes might take a while to uncover them. Based on the NFO, I'd keep the article. — DaxServer (talk to me) 09:22, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. GNG is not met. WP:NFILM is not met either – including WP:NFO: the film did not receive a major award for excellence – the award mentioned in this discussion was not for the film (and it's excellence), but for best actress. — Alalch Emis (talk) 20:57, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The award she received was for her acting in this film. I'd assume that her acting is a part of the film making. Do you think otherwise? — DaxServer (talk to me) 09:22, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't assume anything. When an actress has received a best actress award it is not the case that the film has received a major award for excellence. Keywords: actress =/= film, best actress =/= excellence of film as such. — Alalch Emis (talk) 13:49, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:NFO. Disconnecting an award won by an actor for a performance in a particular film from the film itself is a pedantic, obtuse, and obstructionist argument which lacks common sense. Of course an award for a performance within a film counts as an award toward's the films notability as well as to the actor. That's why media around the Academy Awards can state about a film "winner of 10 Academy Awards" including, Best Picture, Best Actor, etc. One can not divorce the performances from within a film from the film itself, as films are essentially made up of captured performances as their primary ingredient. Further, if an actor's performance within a particular film wins a significant award, it's a strong indicator that foreign language references or offline references exist about the film which would meet the standard of GNG. Hence we can presume notability, which is why NFO was written.4meter4 (talk) 22:51, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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