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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Other than the nominator, none of the participants are calling for deletion. Views are split between Keep and Merge, although more than one merge target has been proposed. The decision of what, if any, to merge, and to where, is an editorial one, and discussion can continue on the article's Talk page. This decision doesn't require an AfD to adjudicate it. Owen× ☎ 23:06, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

75 Years of Friendship through Cricket Event[edit]

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Just because this game had a specific branding of "75 Years of Friendship through Cricket Event", that doesn't make it notable enough for a separate article. There doesn't look to be WP:SUSTAINED coverage of this match, and the match itself has just WP:ROUTINE coverage. All of the "Background" section is not directly relevant to the match and could be covered in separate articles about the teams' cricketing histories, and the match details are already covered in Australian cricket team in India in 2022–23. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:41, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Cricket, India, and Australia. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:41, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep but not necessarily strongly - I guess you could make the argument this would be better merged, but there was a lot of coverage of the political portion of the event. I am finding some sustained coverage, especially because Albanese was invited back for the final. SportingFlyer T·C 09:42, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The match did recieve significant coverage in March 2023 in India. The series article you mentioned does not have much as compared to the content of this article. Moreover, if you do see, that series article itself is in an ongoing split discussion. Similar events like Namaste Trump have pages; and this was followed by an entire match.
Pharaoh496 (talk) 09:48, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Australian cricket team in India in 2022–23; unlike Namaste Trump or Howdy Modi or the bajillion other gimmicky diplomatic events, this one isn't independently notable. Coverage is routine and retrospective coverage is basically non-existent. AryKun (talk) 17:19, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • That article is already in an existing WP:SPLIT discussion, I dont deem it appropriate for the contents of this article to be merged as a singular match when they are contemplating seperating entire tours.
    • It did recieve decent coverage as well as some political fallout. As stated above, I support keeping
    Pharaoh496 (talk) 07:52, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That split discussion has had no comments for a year and is not caused by the article being too long, so isn't relevant to whether this article should be merged into it or not. There's also many choices for merge targets, including articles about Australia-India cricket and relations. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:48, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Even if that merge discussion hasnt had comments for a year, plumping this content there will make it worse.
    • As stated by @SportingFlyer, and me; there was political coveage, I have tried to add a bit more. It was more than a cricket match, and I have included all the valid information on the trip.
    Pharaoh496 (talk) 11:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That split discussion centers on whether it was one or two distinct tours. If it gets split, this can be merged to whichever tour the Test series was part of. AryKun (talk) 14:04, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Still does not mean this article cant exist, per my existing points Pharaoh496 (talk) 14:42, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Joseph2302 I beg to differ on your original point. The event getting unique branding preparations and then the event actually getting carried out constitute an article here. By that logic, I mighth have seen half a dozen good articles with less relevance than this; but thats the point - its all relevant, valid and cited information. It has failed GAN's but the reasons were for the article to improve further (which it has), and not actually take it down. Pharaoh496 (talk) 11:42, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Australian cricket team in India in 2022–23 as this event was about diplomatic relations between two cricket playing countries when Australian team was in India 2023 for test matches against India. This event is not notable for a separate page with such title but fits best on page Australian cricket team in India in 2022–23 where a segment can be created about this celebration. RangersRus (talk) 14:08, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The page is about a test series. Having so much information about a single test is unconventional and inconvenient, not to mention unprecedented for a conventional wikipedia test series page.
    That particular page in question is already cluttered as it is. Pharaoh496 (talk) 06:25, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge as above; it doesn't help that the article is in extremely poor condition—essentially a badly-written, promotional political puff piece, which is unacceptable. There are only a couple of reliable sources which provide SIGCOV of the events, and they all fall under WP:ROUTINE. Every other non-sporting citation does not contribute to notability. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:58, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Can you explain this? How exactly is it a promotional junk piece? Each source is cited to the best citation available, and contains all the information about the event and all the unique things taking place Pharaoh496 (talk) 06:23, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "all of the unique things taking place" can you really not hear yourself? Now find sources which show notability: read what WP:GNG says, and explain why the sources fulfil those criteria. Remember, you are arguing that the "75 Years of Friendship through Cricket Event" is notable. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:26, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Understanding the reason to merge - Topic relevant for standalone article

I would like to thank editors @AirshipJungleman29@RangersRus@AryKun@Joseph2302 for commenting here. I would like to raise some points here.
  • This was not just a cricket match: It was a 75-year anniversary celebration of cricket relations between the two countries + of international bilateral relations + of the success of an educational agreement. All of that information is included. It would be unfair to deem it as just a cricket match article.
  • Notwithstanding the above fact: The description of the entire match has also been included as it was at the start of the match which was played. So has the toss coin, the jersey exchange and the cap handing.
  • This event did have significant political coverage in India and Indian media; as well as some political fallout, and I as the editor of this page have done my best to add citations and backgrounds.
  • As stated before, the series article already has the required information of ten matches - it will be unconventional and inconvenient, not to mention unprecedented for a conventional wikipedia test series page to contain detailed information of this event. On top of it, even though it was a year ago, its undergoing a split discussion (with majority voting in favour), furthering the argument of not plumping this content onto that page.
  • This page has failed a GAN not for lack of nobility, but simply lack of citations which has then since been changed as much as possible, and I as, one of the principal editors currently, will constantly keep looking to improve the article and take suggestions even after the conclusion of this discussion.
Pharaoh496 (talk) 12:05, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please stop WP:BLUDGEONING this discussion Pharaoh496; your behaviour is becoming disruptive and your attitude towards this page is beginning to verge on WP:OWN. I have hatted the above monologue which adds absolutely nothing new to the discussion. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:18, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I was getting ready to close this with a Merge to Australian cricket team in India in 2022–23 until I saw on that article that there is a recommendation that this article should be split into more than one article. So, I'm not sure that it's the ideal Merge target article and wanted to get a second opinion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 08:06, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • ~~ AirshipJungleman29, well, I just wanted to bring this fact to this discussion in case it made any difference to participating editors' opinion. Apparently, it doesn't. Liz Read! Talk! 23:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think there's anything wrong with this page as it stands, and the page we want to merge to is too large. It's pretty simple. SportingFlyer T·C 15:32, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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