Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/500th Anniversary of the Zaporozhian Cossacks

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The result was delete. As Bejnar points out, the "keep" opinions convincingly argue that this was a historically significant event, but they mostly do not address the reason advanced for deletion, which is a lack of sources establishing notability in Wikipedia's terms (WP:N). Therefore I must give the "keep" opinions less weight. This very short article might fit as a section in Zaporozhian Cossacks; it can be restored for the purpose of merging the content there. Sandstein 07:37, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

500th Anniversary of the Zaporozhian Cossacks[edit]

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WP:1E IMO - This was a once off anniversary, although I am sure there will be a 600th. Although the Cossacks are notable I don't see how this celebration was notable Gbawden (talk) 12:49, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This event was significant in the fact that during Soviet times, such celebrations of Ukrainian statehood were banned, where even the use of the Ukrainian national flag was banned. The Soviet Union was a tightly controlled society, so a large social movement within its borders is highly significant. It was not a parade that just occurred in one specific city--it was conducted all throughout Ukraine with the support of a major national political party which pushed for the independence of Ukraine from the USSR. This is a highly notable event in early Ukrainian post-USSR statehood. § DDima 16:04, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Major public expressions of Ukrainianness in the closing years of the USSR have rather obvious notability, in the light of Kravchuk's 1991 decision to go for independence. It is also significant that major events were held in the streets in Dnepropetrovsk and Zaporozhe, which are in the Russian-speaking east of Ukraine. Note also that the source for the article is a magazine article published in Donetsk in 2009 - i.e. people 19 years later thought it was significant enough to write about.--Toddy1 (talk) 19:23, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Page 135 of The Legacy of History in Russia and the New States of Eurasia vol 1, discusses the way the event was handled in the press at the time.--Toddy1 (talk) 21:56, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as insufficient sourcing to show that it is a notable event of itself outside of the cause of Ukrainian independence. Content probably belongs under Ukrainian independence, Ukrainian Popular Front, or the Zaporozhian Cossacks article itself. GraemeLeggett (talk) 18:23, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:38, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to People's Movement of Ukraine. There is not much to be said about it, and it won't distort the People's Movement of Ukraine article. Not enough for a standalone article. --Bejnar (talk) 03:57, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:55, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Listed at WikiProject Ukraine. CesareAngelotti (talk) 18:16, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This event was significant enough to have its own article as Toddy1 & DDima have shown. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 12:42, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It was a huge event that involved great number of people across the whole Ukrainian SSR and greatly contributed to the drive for the Ukrainian sovereignty in 1990s. Cossacks were primarily notable for shaping the Ukrainian identity. The article needs to be expanded, there is enough information at its Ukrainian counterpart. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 13:38, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment All of these keep votes are addressing the importance of the event and not the lack of coverage. I don't dispute the importance of the event, just the need for a stand-alone article given the lack of coverage. Historically, it rates about one sentence, maybe two. Wikipedia is not news. The role of cossacks in shaping the Ukrainian identity is not appropriately addressed in this type of specific article, but elsewhere in a more general article. Please address keeping (or deleting) the article in terms of Wikipedia guidelines and policies. --Bejnar (talk) 15:43, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The article has 1 reference, and about 2 sentences. It doesn't meet GNG or this policy, so I'm going to vote delete. Brandon (MrWooHoo) • Talk to Brandon! 02:26, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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