Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2B-A-40

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The result was delete. Spartaz ^Humbug! 17:18, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2B-A-40[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG - could not find WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS. Someone might need to check for reliable Russian sources. Ansh666 18:30, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:16, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Does not meet Wiki notability requirements. The main source of information on the internet for this firearm seems to be Wikipedia itself or a Wiki mirror.--RAF910 (talk) 14:54, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ryan Postlethwaite^{See the mess I've created or let's have banter} 23:40, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Of the dozen or so article on obscure Soviet stuff recently nominated, this the only one that actually has some sources backing it up. There are some pictures of the gun here (you need scroll down, actual pictures are [1] and [2]). I haven't read through all that page to see if it was just a prototype or what, but I suspect so given that serial numbers 1 and 2 are shown in the first pic. Someone not using his real name (talk) 12:12, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, perhaps redirect later. Ok, I've looked through a printed biography of Kalashnikov (in Russian). It turns out this 2B-A-40 was a competing design made by A. S. Konstantinov in 1956; it entered trials in 1957, together with a bunch of others as a possible replacement/improvement of the AK-47. 2B-A-40 was probably not selected for any service, for it was rejected in that trial; none of the competitors were a significant improvement on Kalashnikov's gun that was already in service. It could be mentioned together with the rest in the history section of AK-47, if it even had a paragraph on the 1957 trials, but there currently isn't one. If we had a biography of Александр Семенович Константинов (but he doesn't even have one in the Russian wiki), this gun should also be mentioned there. There isn't really any useful content in this stub. Someone not using his real name (talk) 12:54, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note. Someone might want to look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Uayoa; there are a lot of articles in need of attention, all created by a group of accounts sharing similar characteristics. Not all of their creations are bad, but enough are misleading/uninformative, like this one was. Someone not using his real name (talk) 12:54, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment to Someone: I'm not sure, but I don't think links to external images count as sources (correct me if I'm wrong). Anyways, I don't doubt that these weapons I've AfD'd existed, but they simply aren't notable enough, even to the Russians. I think the editor is trying to be useful, but doesn't have the concept of notability in mind. Ansh666 17:50, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.