Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2022 Flagstaff, Arizona mayoral election

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The result was delete. Stifle (talk) 15:35, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 Flagstaff, Arizona mayoral election[edit]

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Electioncruft. This election in a 75000-people town is as insignificant as to fail WP:IMPACT. Geschichte (talk) 15:36, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Where is the 75,000 limit listed as the guideline? I created this from a redlink on 2022 United States elections and figured it would be a good place to move info on the candidates since Paul Deasy was deleted (which I agree). Anyhow, looking at Flagstaff, it is the county seat of Coconino County, Arizona so I do not see it as "cruft". The county is the 2nd largest county in the country by area and has a significant native American population (25-30%). Probably best to get some inputs from the Wikipedia:WikiProject Elections and Referendums since I am seeing cities with smaller populations having similar pages.Patapsco913 (talk) 16:09, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Bobherry Talk Edits 01:51, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:17, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Rename I have thought quite a while on this - came here from watchlist/edits to the Flagstaff, Arizona article. Flagstaff isn't, as the nom claims, some insignificant town. It is a city and the county seat of the second largest county in the US; including metro area it is over 100,000 population, which is surely where a cutoff would be if we made arguments on simple math. Factor in that it is a surprisingly old city for the Southwest, and a very singular one, the article about the city (despite my best efforts to improve it and others coming along) is quite long and still incomplete. The red link to the mayoral election existed as what was presumably a recurring elections template, so it has been previously understood at least by the elections WP that there is assumed notability - or a random city mayoral election wouldn't be a red link in the template in the first place. However, as articles go, it is lacking in just about everything and so it seems impossible to determine whether it is worthy to include in an encyclopaedia before it has happened. Do we keep it and wait until the election to make it a decent article/wait until something otherwise changing the situation happens? Do we delete it and either remember to revisit the subject or forget? Do we merge to the messy politics section of the city article, since there is some WP assumed notability of the elections, not just results? Or - since keeping gives it a free pass to not improve, deleting gives legitimacy to not recreate if appropriate, and merging would necessitate an over bloated undue election dump at the city article - I suggest an article about elections in Flagstaff, starting it by renaming this. Kingsif (talk) 04:31, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Bold third relist to consider Kingsif's comments.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Draftify Took another look and I'm changing my vote. San Francisco as an example has pages for all of it's elections (e.g. 2019_San_Francisco_mayoral_election). I believe that the 2022 Flagstaff election is notable. However, no one bothered to create any articles for previous Flagstaff elections, and I have little faith this page will ever be expanded. So I suggest moving it to draft, on the off chance someone does chose to take on the work. -- Bob drobbs (talk) 05:37, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I very much doubt that a settlement the size of Flagstaff has elections which are significant enough to warrant standalone articles. Flagstaff doesn't even make the ten largest cities in Arizona, and it isn't nearly big enough to appear on List of United States cities by population, which has over 300 entries. San Francisco is vastly bigger (the metropolitan area is 34 times bigger than Flagstaff's) and not comparable. The article barely has any content, just a list of candidates sourced to an extremely short local news article. I can find some coverage of the results of prior elections, but writing articles on them on that basis would violate WP:NOT#IINFO and WP:NOT#NEWS. Nor is there any useful content to draftify. Hut 8.5 19:12, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Not a large enough town to get non-local coverage. The one source is to a local TV news organisation. Fails GNG. SportingFlyer T·C 12:50, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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