Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2010–11 Cambridge United F.C. season

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) EN-Jungwon 12:17, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2010–11 Cambridge United F.C. season[edit]

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Fails WP:NSEASONS. The previous discussion about 5 years ago was no consensus but I can't see any reason to keep this. The club finished 17th and didn't do anything worth mentioning. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 11:04, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep There's a very good reason to keep this: the article clearly passes WP:GNG. WP:NSEASONS isn't exclusionary, and certainly how a team finished has nothing to do with whether or not the season qualifies for an article - it's all about whether secondary sources substantively said sufficient stuff supporting a season article. SportingFlyer T·C 12:14, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep under criterion # three (The nomination is so erroneous that it indicates the nominator has not even read the page in question) as the nomination's claim that the club didn't do anything worth mentioning is roundly refuted by the number of reliable sources who found plenty worth mentioning. ——Serial 12:21, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't have nominated this if I thought there was anything notable taking place. Such as gaining promotion or making the finals of some competition. That is a perfectly good reason and why I have asked for others opinion by AFDing it instead of PRODing it. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 12:54, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - a large portion of the sources used are not even about this season. For example, this source shows significant coverage but it's from 2005... Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:28, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per GNG. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:45, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NSEASONS. Number 5 7 13:46, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's odd, I just looked and NSEASONS doesn't say you "can't" create season articles on non-league clubs. What bit of it are you saying this article contravenes? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:25, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Presumably N57 is basing his argument on the sentence "Articles can be created on individual seasons of teams in top professional leagues", although let's face it, that's staggeringly vague. What is a "top" professional league in England? Just the Premier League? That's the top league in the strictest sense of the word. If not, then at what point does a league stop being a "top" professional league......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:30, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well that's why I asked the question really. I think "per NSEASONS" is an invalid response to this and an invalid reason to nominate for deletion because it clearly doesn't state that this kind of article should not exist. And I, for one, can tell you that having watched League One for two years now, it is most definitely NOT a "top" professional league. And ultimately the idea of deleting in this way is absurd, if a club spent a couple of seasons in non-League before coming back into a "top" professional league, should we have a gap in their history just to satisfy this curious interpretation of an abjectly badly worded guideline? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:38, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This is why I say above that NSEASONS is not exclusionary. There's been consensus Conference/National League seasons don't "count" in the past (for the year Leyton Orient dropped down, I believe), even though they clearly receive consistent media coverage. SportingFlyer T·C 15:02, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails GNG as far as I can see. Lots of sources does not mean "significant coverage" - it all appears be ROUTINE/NOTNEWS. Giant Snowman 20:19, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How is the coverage here any different from say 2014–15_Cambridge_United_F.C._season? SportingFlyer T·C 20:28, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Or pretty much every league season of every league team ever who didn't do particularly well in any trophy, get promoted or relegated? A good question indeed. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:32, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Like 1958–59 Liverpool F.C. season for example. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:53, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:GNG. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 20:22, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep - I'm not really convinced by any of the sources in the article, many of which focus more on other seasons. I have found articles in The Telegraph and The Guardian which reference this season as a massive low point in Cambridge's history. This, along with only a couple of the sources in the article, gives me hope that more significant coverage can be found. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:22, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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