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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Pieceofmetalwork (talk) 11:24, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2008 Longnan riot[edit]

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Doesn't appear to meet WP:EVENTCRITERIA, especially regarding duration, depth and lasting effects. The coverage is limited to relatively short news articles from around the time of the event. The content can be covered in Longnan or 2008 Sichuan earthquake. Pieceofmetalwork (talk) 08:42, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Pieceofmetalwork (talk) 08:42, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:15, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 10:54, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn by nominator, nothing to add to below comment, in my initial cursory search for the exact title I didn't see as much coverage as given below.

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. Book sources and journal sources:
      1. Cai, Yongshun (2015). State and Agents in China: Disciplining Government Officials. Stanford: Stanford University Press. pp. 99–100. ISBN 978-0-8047-9251-6. Retrieved 2021-07-05.

        The book provides 390 words of coverage. The book notes:

        Understandably, the local governments' discretion is restricted when upper-level authorities intervene. An example is a riot that occurred in 2008 in the city of Longnan in Gansu Province, which caused heavy economic losses. [114 words of additional coverage]

        On the afternoon of November 17, around 100 peasants from thirty households went to the city Party committee and sought clarification from the city Party secretary on whether the administration would be constructed elsewhere. [92 words of additional coverage]

        Both the provincial government and the central government investigated the case by sending work teams to the city; however, the two authorities had different views on which officials should be disciplined. The provincial authority proposed that the major leaders of the Party committee and the government of the district where the riot occurred should be disciplined. This implied that city leaders would be exempted. Not surprisingly, the lower-level officials became resentful because the case was not directly handled by them but by the city authority. The central government, in contrast, believed that higher-level officials should take responsibility. Eventually, the city Party secretary was transferred and assigned as director of the agricultural office of the provincial Party committee.

      2. Rithmire, Meg E. (2015). Land Bargains and Chinese Capitalism: The Politics of Property Rights under Reform. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-1-316-44533-4. Retrieved 2021-07-05.

        The book notes in a footnote (my bolding): "Examples of the dramatic escalation of these disputes abound in the Chinese press. One of the most famous is the Longnan incident, during which petitions to the local government from thirty people whose homes had been demolished evolved into riots involving thousands of people and at least seventy casualties." The footnote is for the sentences: "The process of land conversion is extraordinarily contentious and often violent. Chinese journals frequently report beatings, assaults, incinerations, and mass brawls among peasants and local leaders over land disputes."

      3. Hu, Jun; Shu, Xueming; Tang, Shiyang (May 2018). Boersma, Kees; Tomaszewski, Brian (eds.). "Analysis of Core Social Actors in Nine Types of Mass Incidents Based on Social Network Analysis" (PDF). Proceedings of the 15th ISCRAM Conference – Rochester, NY, USA May 2018. ISCRAM. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2021-07-05. Retrieved 2021-07-05.

        The article notes: "Now taking the Gansu Longnan incident (E1) as an example to construct the relation matrix. On November 17, 2008, more than 30 relocatees from Dongjiang Town of Longnan City petitioned for a visit to Longnan Municipal Party Committee. The relocatees heard about the rumor that the municipal government should relocate to Chengxian County, they worried about their interests would be impaired after the relocation of the administrative center. Around 20 o'clock that night, a number of troublemakers attacked the Longnan Municipal Committee, sixty-nine police officers, two police officers and three reporters were wounded. Troublemaker also smashed houses and vehicles. In this case, the social actors are casualty, family (relocatees), criminal, onlookers, media, rumormonger, police and official. The reporter and the police were injured, so a15 = 1, a17 = 1; some relocatees hit and smashed, so a23 = 1; ..."

      4. Shao, Guosong; Xiao, Tangbiao; Yao, Shuo; Shen, Hongmei (2011-08-02). "Guiding public opinion in civil disorder". Journal of International Communication. 17 (2): 101–102. doi:10.1080/13216597.2011.589361. Retrieved 2021-07-05.

        The article notes: "On 17 November 2008, over 1,000 people attacked the Longnan city government in Gansu Province. The attack was caused by the dispute on the compensation and resettlement for demolition and relocation of residential houses between the government and local residents. As a result, 71 policemen were injured, 110 houses burned down, and 22 vehicles damaged (Zeng 2008). After the event happened, the Province’s Party Secretary Hao Lu issued a public statement, stressing that every citizen has a right to express their opinion and concerns through legitimate channels instead of violence or other illegal ways. On the other hand, he asked the local government to use individualized thought work to patiently and meticulously educate those participants not knowing the truth but wrongfully provoked by others. This showed that instead of simply relying on fear that might be instilled in the minds of the residents through the police force, the government tested the effect of individualized thought work. The main purpose of individual thought work here was to minimize the citizens’ resistance/opposition to the target issue on an individual basis. Within two days, the Longnan city government recruited 1,820 thought workers among all government units, divided them into 33 working groups, and then sent them to talk with thousands of participants one-on-one, face-to-face (Zeng 2008). The crisis was reportedly brought under control and city order returned to normal in a few days (Zeng 2008)."

      5. Jihong, Mo (2011). "Legal Measures for Group Events in 2009". In Li, Lin (ed.). The China Legal Development Yearbook. Boston: Brill Publishers. p. 197. ISBN 978-90-04-18249-3. Retrieved 2021-07-05.

        The book notes (bolding added for emphasis): "In Gansu Longnan event in November 2008, Secretary Wang Yi (王叉) also avoided the public, and did not dare meet them. The Guizhou Weng'an “6•28” event that occurred in 2008 was also bred from the party's accidental death event and evolved into a serious emergency of beating, smashing, looting, and burning. Under the instigation of a small number of people, some lawbreakers made ambushed the police with mineral spring bottles, clod and bricks, and broke through the human wall formed by the police to beat and smash office equipment, burn down vehicles, and besiege the public security police and fire fighters who came to handle the event. The lawbreakers continued to beat, smash, loot, and burn buildings of Weng'an county party committee and county government; the entire incident lasted nearly 7 hours, and the nature of it was tense. Although the event finally subsided under the leadership of Guizhou Provincial Party Committee and provincial government, it is unusual that such an event take so long to handle, and to cause such extreme social chaos and adverse effects in subsequent years. This is mainly because local leaders did not have the courage to face the public, and thus improperly handle the situation."

    2. Sources published in 2008:
      1. Bandurski, David (2008-11-20). "The Longnan riots and the CCP's global spin campaign". China Media Project. Journalism and Media Studies Centre. Archived from the original on 2011-08-27. Retrieved 2021-07-05.

        This is extensive analysis about the media coverage about the Longnan riots.

      2. Jacobs, Andrew (2008-11-18). "Thousands Battle Police in China's Northwest". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2021-07-05. Retrieved 2021-07-05.

        The article discussed the riots in detail.

      3. "Protesters in stand-off after day of clashes". South China Morning Post. 2008-11-19. Archived from the original on 2021-07-05. Retrieved 2021-07-05.

        The article discussed the riots in detail.

      4. Coonan, Clifford (2008-11-20). "Chinese police told to keep a lid on economic protests". The Irish Times. Archived from the original on 2021-07-05. Retrieved 2021-07-05.

        The article discussed the riots in detail.

      5. "China's Protesters". The Wall Street Journal. 2008-11-25. Archived from the original on 2021-07-05. Retrieved 2021-07-05..

        The article discussed the riots in detail and provides commentary about why the riots happened.

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow the 2008 Longnan riots to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 11:09, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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