Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1948 (film)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 05:58, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

1948 (film)[edit]

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References cited do not talk about the film, but the author in general. Quality of the references is questioned as mostly blog entries. The proposers research did not find notable evidence for the movie or independent third party reviews of the book. The article itself speaks mostly in general terms about South African movies in a talkative way instead of being on point about the alleged movie. The article is/was part of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mziboy and questions about notability in this regards have been raised before on related subjects and led to deletion. I bring forward a request for deletion for general lack of notability. Jake Brockman (talk) 10:48, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Ken Sibanda's 1948 film Wikipedia[edit]

I would like to vote that this article be kept for the following reasons. While there are serious issues with the deleting editor's use of unsubstantiated accusations intended to appear as if this article is a part of an on going conflict of interest. This is a direct violation of Wikipedia policy to accuse other editors of sockpuppetry without any evidence. The link provided, from ten years ago, is not timely.

- The film, 1948, is notable because it satisfies Wikipedia's notability definition, which is not based on fame but on contribution to field. Sibanda is one of a few, not sure what is so offensive by this fact: please look at Apartheid films one after the other. In the same vein, a white Jazz musician would be notable under Wiki's guidelines because that field is primarily considered black music.

- I think its fairly accepted that most movie directors from South Africa have been white, and so even if nothing has yet been written it qualifies under Wikipedia's guidelines.

I think there is a serious problem with the tone and attitude of the editor seeking deletion of this article. He assumes the article is part of a thread or conflict with a permantly banned editor Mziboy, which it's not.

There seems to be a personal issue going on here, namely Ken Sibanda's work is not notable. I have never meet Ken Sibanda, but he deserves to be treated fairly just like all the other "white" South African directors are treated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mutombofromcongo (talk • contribs) 17:01, February 28, 2017 (UTC) — Mutombofromcongo (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:00, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:01, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete because I cannot find any significant coverage from reliable sources to establish notability for the topic. This is the criteria that Wikipedia applies. Wikipedia follows coverage from such sources, so if there is no coverage, it cannot follow in writing about the topic. If others can find coverage about this film, I'd be happy to reevaluate my stance. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 15:08, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 18:59, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Erik and because SPAs' keep !votes don't need whole subsections. KATMAKROFAN (talk) 22:30, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - As mentioned in the nomination, not a single one of the sources is about this film, and many (if not all) of them are not reliable sources. Looking for sources, I'm finding very almost nothing, merely the product pages for the book the film is based on. 64.183.45.226 (talk) 21:25, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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