Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sandbox/Game of Go

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The result of the debate was Either keep or no consensus. Keep either way. Woohookitty 07:55, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sandbox/Game_of_Go

This is the sandbox, a place to test your edits when new to wikipedia, which is an encyclopedia, not a game place. Games have no place here, and with the speed this site has been lately, we don't need useless games taking more bandwidth. Plenty of free chess online. Elfguy 4 July 2005 15:37 (UTC)

• Strong keep. See the precedent - Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Chess championship. It's a reasonable community-building activity. "Free chess online" doesn't suit for one, the game of go isn't chess, and secondly, it would defeat the whole point of community building. -- Natalinasmpf 4 July 2005 15:54 (UTC)
• Keep. Don't be a killjoy. This isn't chess - at least get your facts straight. Wiki is fast, anyway. William M. Connolley 2005-07-04 16:16:31 (UTC).
• Extremely Strong Keep- This is a vital sub-department of the Department of Fun! :-) Seriously, all of these are harmless, wiki-stress relieving, community-building activities. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 4 July 2005 16:42 (UTC)
• Delete. This dillitues the goals of the project - Wikipedia is not a platform for gaming. Jimbo has offered to put them on Wikicities. Move them and delete. →Raul654 July 4, 2005 17:17 (UTC)
• Keep. Wikipedia gets too serious sometimes. There needs to be a place to have fun. — Bcat (talk | email) 4 July 2005 18:25 (UTC)
• Delete. This is getting a slippery slope. I can see that it's fun and, of course, I don't object to a few people playing a game in their userspace or in the sandbox, but we shouldn't get to a point were the games interfere with the encyclopedia building (e.g. by making the site slower, complicating RC patrol because of higher volume of changes). If we are going to keep these games, these VfDs will become a precedent and it will become more difficult to limit the amount of "fun" pages that do not help the encyclopedia-building-aspect of Wikipedia. Games should be hosted elsewhere. Sietse 4 July 2005 18:45 (UTC)
• Move & Projectfy at Wikipedia:Department of fun, unless this creates a significant draw of Wikipedia resources. We are here for fun - one way or another - and this helps integrate the community just as real life meetings, noticeboards, mailing lists, etc. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 4 July 2005 22:51 (UTC)
• Keep NSR (talk) 5 July 2005 00:41 (UTC)
• keep or move to wikicities but keep links to it wherever it goes. Not as encyclopedic as 6 degrees of separation but I don't see it being a big load on the servers. Just if you are going to play go here, make sure you use the preview button when editing articles, to make up for the 'extra' load? Pedant 2005 July 5 01:15 (UTC)
• Delete as per Sietse. JamesBurns 5 July 2005 01:27 (UTC)
• Strong delete, WP:NOT a gameserver. — Phil Welch 5 July 2005 04:50 (UTC)

Comment. By your logic, let's delete BJAODN and the department of fun, then? -- Natalinasmpf 5 July 2005 05:10 (UTC)

• Keep - not a valid criterion for deletion. Whether or not fun and games belong on Wikipedia is a policy issue, not a VfD issue. A good argument was made on the mailing list, but the mailing list has no official status and that discussion was not brought up here. Guettarda 5 July 2005 05:34 (UTC)
• Delete -- The sandbox isn't an appropriate place for games of this type. All content in the sandbox should be routinely cleared and deleted, including subfolders, regardless of the content. The sandbox by nature is a temporary testing space for new users to experiment and not a resource for creating wikigames or sub-communities. I also note Wikipedia:Wikigames has been redirected to Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. I'm not against Wikigames as such, but I am against hiding them within subfolders of the Wikipedia sandbox. -- Longhair | Talk 6 July 2005 12:14 (UTC)
• Keep please. It's a fun game. -- BigMac 6 July 2005 22:45 (UTC)
• Delete. This should not be in the sandbox. Angela. July 7, 2005 06:06 (UTC)
• Delete. Nonencyclopedic. Wiki editors all know how to find recreational activities elsewhere on the Internet. And if we keep this one, what would be the argument against offering every other sort of game here? carmeld1 8 July 2005 00:29 (UTC)
• Strong keep. A submit every now and then isnt going to kill wikipedia.. especially with no more than 5 games going on at once. See also Natalinasmpf's post.
• Strgon keep per Natalinasmpf and every other wikipedian that voted keep. Falphin 8 July 2005 16:44 (UTC)

• Move & Projectfy as an entirley sepearte wikimedia project unless this creates a significant draw of Wikipedia resources. --glassjar99 01:15, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

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