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31 December 2014
[edit]- Suspected sockpuppets
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leelah Alcorn seems to be attracting a lot of votes from brand-new or fairly new accounts and IPs. Not sure if socking, meatpuppets or just a bunch of separate editors that happen to have the same interest, but it needs investigating. Might also be worth comparing to User:Trickmind, whom hadn't edited Wikipedia since March until today, and User:Wikidan829, who hadn't edited since August 2013 until today, and removed SPA notices from the discussion. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 15:51, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
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This submission fails to comply with the basic requirements for such reports. Read the advice box above the edit window, at least! Where's the evidence of socking? You need to supply at least some evidence of why you suspect sock puppetry. The least you need is diffs of edits that suggest the accounts are connected. Vaguely worded submissions, such as this one, will not be investigated. You need to actually show why your suspicion that the accounts are connected is reasonable. Grewia (talk) 22:25, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
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- I am not a sock puppet. I am a long time Wikipedia user and just created my first account today. I am not sure if there is something specific you need from me to prove it but will check back later. I totally uderstand! --Boomboomwiki (talk) 23:00, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- If this is the case, hopefully you will be found innocent; it certainly looks suspicious that so many new accounts, like yours, have appeared out of nowhere. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 23:07, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry for commenting inline. I am not a sockpuppet. I edit on Rational Wiki but have never edited here. I have a vested interest in the Leelah Alcorn situation. I have been in contact with some of her friends. --Boomboomwiki (talk) 23:09, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- I would like to add that I am transgender myself. --Boomboomwiki (talk) 23:12, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- The deletion article was posted to the #JusticeForLeelah on twitter which is VERY busy the last couple of days. It isn't surprising there are so many new accounts. --Boomboomwiki (talk) 23:17, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- You're nearly getting there in terms of formatting :) It might be worth requesting that people stop creating accounts to !vote in the AfD, as an influx of new accounts can actually derail the situation, and there are plenty of experienced editors stating that they think it should be kept. This also goes some way to establishing why long-dead accounts have been resurrected, but I still believe that an SPI is needed; it's as much to exonerate the innocent of most of the suspicion as it is to catch out those who are socking. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 23:21, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hi! I'm not a sock puppet either. I've been a user of wikipedia for a very long time, originally as LouisC. Earlier this year I began transitioning and signed up for a new Wikipedia account when I was making new accounts everywhere. I didn't realize I could request to change my username until after making the new account. I've left a note, as LouisC, on my old User page, and also on my new User page, as proof that I am the same person. That account is now retired and has not been in use for over a year. - erisrenee (talk) 23:43, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- OK Erisrenee, thanks for the response. If you'd be able to log in with the LouisC account and confirm the above, I will happily remove you from the SPI. :) Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 23:47, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- Boop! Louis C. (talk) 23:50, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks very much. Removing your name as a result. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 12:49, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
This SPI strikes me as likely being in bad faith, intended to harass users who "voted" on the Leelah Alcorn article deletion. I am anonymous because I wish to be, not because I'm a sockpuppet.174.21.172.56 (talk) 10:09, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Honestly, I would agree with you. There does appear to be some uproar around the idea that Leelah is worthy of an article, some of which has evidence of being in bad faith and that refuses to bend when exposed to evidence that she is notable. Reddon666 (talk) 10:30, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- If you look at the AfD, you'll see that I actually !voted to keep the article; so no, it isn't in bad faith. An influx of brand-new accounts can derail a discussion, and that is what I was trying to prevent, if someone was breaking the rules; after all, we're essentially on the same "side". Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 12:49, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- @Lukeno94: I just found this http://mctanuki.tumblr.com/post/106787146716/leelah-alcorns-wikipedia-page-is-still-in-danger . I expect they are probably more such posts out there on tumblr vote stacking the afd discussion.Avono (talk) 17:16, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
My account got deleted I see. I find this a bit bizarre as I feel I provided proof that I am not a sock puppet. I am a trans woman that also tried to take my own life once so this article is important to me. I only have one account (or had). It almost seems that someone is trying to knock down the number of "Keep" votes. --Boomboomwiki (talk) 07:08, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- I moved your contesting of the investigation to the main discussion section. I don't think your account was deleted -- it just appears you haven't made a user page, which is why it's coming up as a red link. Reddon666 (talk) 10:30, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you. --Boomboomwiki (talk) 18:59, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
I am not sockpuppeting. This AfD has received extensive attention from social media, which has motivated many to participate in it, and the death and cause of Leelah is a close topic to many people who may not feel the need to have active Wikipedia accounts otherwise. Reddon666 (talk) 10:30, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
[edit]- Checkuser comment: Given the extensive attention both the article and the AfD received off-wiki, It is extremely likely that the majority of these new accounts have been motivated to participate from that vector, rather than in any formally organized sockpuppetry. I can't see a good reason to go about checkusering all these accounts, when the outcome of the AfD has already been decided and even I can see that (absent the participation of these new accounts) the result would have been the same. Checkuser Declined. Risker (talk) 04:48, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- Administrator note I agree with Risker, and so I am closing the investigation. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:12, 2 January 2015 (UTC)