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Michaellko
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15 June 2017
[edit]Suspected sockpuppets
[edit]- Yavarai (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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At 08:10, on 23 September 2016, User Michaellko created this draft about an obscure local wrestler who was supposedly active in 1930s. At 08:26, they blanked the page. At 08:38, user Yavarai's account got created. And at 08:47, Yavarai recreated the wrestler's draft by copy-pasting it from User Michaellko's page.
With this edit, Michaellko removed the notability tag from an article, which was created by user Yavarai. And two minutes later, Yavarai logged in & edited the article. Here also Michaellko removed a tag from an article, which was created by user Yavarai. And two minutes later, Yavarai logged in & edited it. In fact, there are also other instances when Michaellko removed tags from those articles which were created by Yavarai, e.g. [1], [2], & [3]. And I guess, leaving behind Yavarai's creations, he never bothered to remove tags from any other page.
Yavarai also created Upendra Rai. Interestingly, this article was first created by Michaellko, but it got speedy deleted. - NitinMlk (talk) 20:10, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
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[edit]@Yavarai: Do you have anything to say here?--Bbb23 (talk) 22:56, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: I have just started my four days shooting scedule on a location out of Delhi. I'll be back home on 23 June and answer you in detail. Regards --Yavarai (talk) 06:56, 17 June 2017 (UTC)Yavarai
- @Bbb23: Dear admin, I am back to Delhi and submitting my reply in simple words. There are allegations of Shock-puppetry against my WP id 'Yavarai'. But my activities on WP have nothing to do with shock-puppetry. However I would like to state that one of my video editors introduced me to the technical knowhow of WP in last September. That day we were editing a documentary on 'mentioned wrestler'. He asked me to provide write-up on the subject and tried to upload it. I was in front of the desktop with him. By uploading this article he demonstrated the technical method and after getting it blanked he asked me to do it by my own ID, so I did it, without having any clue of WP rules at that point of time. After the mentioned article I made four other articles and started reading “dos and don’ts” of WP. After a considerable time spent on reading and understanding WP norms I started once again contributing WP. These are the facts related to my journey as contributor on WP. Finally I would like to say that in no way I am related to userid:michaellko neither I have any information about the activities of mentioned ID.--Yavarai (talk) 17:15, 22 June 2017 (UTC)Yavarai
- @Yavarai: If I understand you properly, you're saying that the "video editor" who helped you last September is not Michaellko? Is that correct?--Bbb23 (talk) 23:36, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: No, I am not saying anything like that. The "video editor" who gave me tutorials about WP article was 'Michaellko'. But I'm in no way his associate or associated with his activities on WP. Regards--Yavarai (talk) 04:21, 23 June 2017 (UTC)Yavarai
- @Yavarai: If I understand you properly, you're saying that the "video editor" who helped you last September is not Michaellko? Is that correct?--Bbb23 (talk) 23:36, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: Dear admin, I am back to Delhi and submitting my reply in simple words. There are allegations of Shock-puppetry against my WP id 'Yavarai'. But my activities on WP have nothing to do with shock-puppetry. However I would like to state that one of my video editors introduced me to the technical knowhow of WP in last September. That day we were editing a documentary on 'mentioned wrestler'. He asked me to provide write-up on the subject and tried to upload it. I was in front of the desktop with him. By uploading this article he demonstrated the technical method and after getting it blanked he asked me to do it by my own ID, so I did it, without having any clue of WP rules at that point of time. After the mentioned article I made four other articles and started reading “dos and don’ts” of WP. After a considerable time spent on reading and understanding WP norms I started once again contributing WP. These are the facts related to my journey as contributor on WP. Finally I would like to say that in no way I am related to userid:michaellko neither I have any information about the activities of mentioned ID.--Yavarai (talk) 17:15, 22 June 2017 (UTC)Yavarai
- What Yaravai says in light of recent history doesn't ring true. Nonetheless, based on the odd history of the two accounts, I've relisted this case for another CheckUser to look at.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:18, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: I've got them on the same IP twice with the same UA. The technical evidence is pretty clear to me, and I don't buy what Yaravai says either. Katietalk 16:24, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks much, Katie, I've blocked and tagged them both. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:42, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: I've got them on the same IP twice with the same UA. The technical evidence is pretty clear to me, and I don't buy what Yaravai says either. Katietalk 16:24, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
04 January 2018
[edit]Suspected sockpuppets
[edit]- Yavarai (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- कलमकार (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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कलमकार was registered 2 days after Yavarai was blocked but started editing on the English Wikipedia some time in November. कलमकार's style of creating articles is very similar to Yavarai. If you look at his userpage on the Hindi Wikipedia (link). Information in his infobox is exactly the same as Yavarai’s userpage on the English Wikipedia. FITINDIA 17:56, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
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[edit]- Confirmed to Michaellko (talk · contribs · count) plus:
- कलमकार (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- महेद्र (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- अंकित तिवारी (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- महेन्द्र माही (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Sudhir kumar sahara samay (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Prem journalist (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Blocked and tagged. Clerk assistance requested: Please merge this case to Michaellko where it should have been filed.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:39, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- Done, closing. GABgab 21:45, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
25 March 2019
[edit]Suspected sockpuppets
[edit]- Immirzakhan (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Possibly related to Michaellko. Similar editing style and re-creation of articles that were previously mass deleted. Mohd.Faheem stands out as it even duplicates the same error in the title. Working off the same "database" at least. Duck... pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 09:05, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]- Immirzakhan and Immirzakhan2 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) are Technically indistinguishable, but a connection to the suspected master is Inconclusive. Behavioural evidence needs evaluation. —DoRD (talk) 12:53, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- Both accounts are blocked, and I don't see a need to fret over who the master is. Closing. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:54, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
12 May 2024
[edit]Suspected sockpuppets
[edit]- Pirate dzns (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- SamarthRor (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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User:Pirate dzns was blocked for disruptive editing, mainly at village article Kaimla, and its district Karnal district. One of their frequent unsourced additions to Kaimla was about a local athlete, Draft:Samarth Ror.
Today LOUTSOCK 106.204.227.6 began with edits to Kaimla [4], then added a redlink to Maratha Virender Verma (Karnal district politician) at Ekta Shakti: [5], with a misleading edit summary. Six minutes later, new account SamarthRor was created, then immediately created Draft:Maratha Virender Verma. SamarthRor's next edit was to undo my reversion of LOUTSOCK at Balraj Panwar: [6].
I was originally going to open this as a new SPI for block evasion by User:Pirate dzns. However, LOUTSOCK also re-added infobox to Balraj Panwar: [7] previously added by blocked sock of User: Michaellko User:Meetupinfo [8], again using the photo added by User:Pirate dzns. So I suspect that User:Pirate dzns is actually a sock of User:Michaellko, along with new account SamarthRor. Wikishovel (talk) 07:07, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
SamarthRor has just created Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/Michaellko. Wikishovel (talk) 07:15, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- Pirate dzns is already blocked; tagging as suspected, blocking the other account and the IP. Closing. Girth Summit (blether) 13:46, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
26 May 2024
[edit]Suspected sockpuppets
[edit]- SandeepKaimliya (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- KaimlaCity (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Pacific World (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Pecificworld (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Same MO as blocked sock User:Pirate dzns's edits at Kaimla: promotion of someone non-notable from the village, with addition of unsourced WP:OR, and attempted description of the village as a city. Pirate dzns' edit-warring focused on unsourced addition of Samarth Ror, for whom we never did find a single reference.
First, 106.204.227.6 tries to change Kaimla from a village to city, a few days after semi-protection expired [9]. This is reverted, and IP blocked for a month for socking.
SandeepKaimliya (created 22 May) then adds Samarth Kaimliya to Kaimla, Baalveer 4 Dhindora and Gaami, sourced only by an IMDB reference claiming that he appears in the films: [10], [11], [12]. They then try to change Kaimla to a city again, contradicting the sources cited: [13]. They then add the same unsourced claims about tourist attractions that Pirate dzns did, with slightly improved formatting: [14].
While these edits are going on at Kaimla on the 25th, KaimlaCity is created, makes overlapping edits with SandeepKaimliya at Kaimla and Balraj Panwar, and uploads copyrighted image File:Kaimla.jpg to Commons.
106.204.226.75 then adds File:Kaimla.jpg to Kaimla [15], minutes after upload to Commons by KaimlaCity. Same anon then creates Draft:Kohand (note redlinked Kohand in Kaimla), and Draft:Samarth Kaimliya.
User:Star Mississippi noticed the pattern at about the same time I did, and has semi-protected Kaimla (with a courteous note at my user talk), to avoid a repeat of the sockpuppet edit-warring grief. SandeepKaimliya hasn't replied at their user talk yet to my warning about SP/MP with KaimlaCity. Wikishovel (talk) 00:03, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Adding Pacific World, created 18 May. On a spree of submitting drafts created by other new editors, including Draft:Dinger Majra created today by KaimlaCity above, which was moved to draft as an unsourced stub about an obscure village. Requesting checkuser for further sleepers. Wikishovel (talk) 19:25, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
User:Star Mississippi had to reapply EC protection to Kaimla on 25 May. Today KaimlaCity made the same unprotect request at its talk page as master made on 10 April. Current: [16], previous: [17]. On a lighter note, here's Pirate dzn's LinkedIn. Wikishovel (talk) 08:53, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- This is a bit of a mess: SandeepKaimliya and KaimlaCity are Confirmed to each other and Likely to previous socks in this SPI. Pacific World and Pecificworld are Confirmed to each other, but I'm fairly sure they're a different person, though there may well be some off-wiki coordination happening given the subject matter. In any case, Pacific World is already blocked for disruption, so I'm blocking their other account. No comment with respect to IP address(es): IPs may need to be handled on behavior. Vanamonde93 (talk) 22:56, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks @Vanamonde93, (And @Wikishovel for the paperwork). IP 106 is clearly here for promotion, but appears ot have gone dormant. Will watch the draft for further disruption. Star Mississippi 00:57, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Closing. Izno (talk) 01:13, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
13 June 2024
[edit]Suspected sockpuppets
[edit]- SamarthKaimla (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Obvious block evasion. SamarthKaimla created 3 June, and second edit was to add Samarth Kaimliya to Balraj Panwar: [18]. Wikishovel (talk) 09:18, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- Looks like a duck to me Blocked and tagged Star Mississippi 13:09, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
22 July 2024
[edit]Suspected sockpuppets
[edit]- SamarthKaimliya (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Obvious block evasion. SamarthKaimliya created 15 July. Still trying to turn his village Kaimla into a city [19], and still adding his name to film credits [20] Wikishovel (talk) 06:02, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
Adding anon sock 103.111.23.228, behaviourally identical to this and previous accounts since March, and back again today. Wikishovel (talk) 11:24, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- Sounds like a duck quacking into a megaphone to me and blocked Star Mississippi 13:54, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Blocked the IP for the same reasons. Thanks @Wikishovel for flagging Star Mississippi 01:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Everybody already blocked. Closing. Vanjagenije (talk) 17:29, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
16 August 2024
[edit]Suspected sockpuppets
[edit]- SamarthRor7 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Obvious block evasion. Usual edits at Kaimla [21], except this time they've actually got sources. Wikishovel (talk) 08:59, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- Duck blocked before I saw the report. Star Mississippi 12:43, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Tagging and closing. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:38, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
05 September 2024
[edit]Suspected sockpuppets
[edit]- SamarthMaratha7 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Obvious block evasion. SamarthMaratha7 created 16 August, first edits were 4 September, adding unsourced claims about Kaimla to a bio: [22], first logged out as 223.228.72.178, then logged in. Then, as ever, they moved on to Kaimla itself, adding unsourced claims about the same two people as last sock User:SamarthRor7, again first logged out as 223.228.72.178, then logged in.
Yesterday SamarthMaratha7 recreated Draft:Guru Brahmanand in main space, last created by blocked sock User:KaimlaCity. Today they recreated spammy Dhanda Nyoliwala, last created by blocked sock User:Pirate dzns. Wikishovel (talk) 09:36, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
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- This is definitely a sockpuppet of previous sockpuppets but I don't think they can be traced back to User:Michaellko any more. I don't think their interests are the same. I know once they are found to be socks, it doesn't really matter but looking into this, their focus on all things related to Kaimla seems different from Michaellko. Liz Read! Talk! 21:11, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- User:Pirate dzns was originally a separate SPI that got merged into Michaellko. The merge was surprising at the time, for the reasons you point out. Wikishovel (talk) 21:36, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- They're now onto disruptive categories, so if this could be confirmed, G5 will save us a lot of time. Star Mississippi 13:31, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- The edits are a problem, regardless of who they are. Blocked. Mass delete can happen if it's a G5, but we don't need more to clean up. Star Mississippi 01:08, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing more to do. Closing. Vanjagenije (talk) 00:34, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
08 October 2024
[edit]Suspected sockpuppets
[edit]- SamarthMaratha (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Obvious block evasion, same edits as blocked sock User:SamarthMaratha7 on the usual topics. SamarthMaratha7 tried twice to link Raja Dhaj at Sorath Rai Diyach in September: [25], [26], and tried to recreate it from redirect. New sock is now evidently going to have another go at Dhaj [27], [28] and is redlinking AFD'd Ror Dynasty as well [29], same as User:SamarthMaratha7 did in September [30]. Wikishovel (talk) 08:06, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- Sounds like a duck quacking into a megaphone to me. I got Kaimla,don't have time to revert the rest this morning. Star Mississippi 11:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 13:40, 8 October 2024 (UTC)