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18 August 2022[edit]

Suspected sockpuppets[edit]

Both brand new accounts, Belugan with his first edit on 20 July, and Recentcontributorsedits on 30 June. Must be a sleeper or meatpuppet.

First the most obvious one; In Zakho resort attack, Recentcontributorsedits attempted twice [1] [2] to restore the edit which now indeffed user Belugan tried thrice to add [3] [4] [5]

Now for the less obvious, but very suspicious ones;

Both incredibly hostile towards me for no apparent reason, repeatedly trying to slander (WP:ASPERSIONS) me. I literally never had any contact with them;

Recentcontributorsedits' comments;

How does this user know (apparently so well) of these so called 'ethnic clashes' with BerkBerk68/BB68?. I'm assuming he is referring to the same topics where both I, BerkBerk and Belugan were involved, where Belugan made the following comments towards me, similar to Recentcontributorsedits' in nature.

Belugan's comments;

You get the idea. Belugan made many more in other places, and he was also an A class stalker of me and obviously not new to Wikipedia, all which can be seen in his ANI report (where he got indeffed) for future reference [6].

For a brand new 'Indian' user, Recentcontributorsedits sure is interested in very specific Armenia/Azerbaijan/Turkey articles, such as Western Armenia, where he edit warred [7] [8] [9], the Kurdish–Turkish conflict (1978–present) [10] and even something as obscure Southern Azerbaijani Wikipedia [11]. Not very dissimilar to Belugan, who was interested in Turkey-related stuff [12], and of course, the both of them being interested in the very same stuff in the afromentioned Zakho resort attack article.

Some of Recentcontributorsedits edits are also incredibly random, such as a Thai air force officer named Kongsak Vantana [13], whom I highly doubt he knows about HistoryofIran (talk) 02:06, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users[edit]

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments[edit]

06 November 2022[edit]

Suspected sockpuppets[edit]

My suspicions stem from my interaction with the listed accounts in the article Karamanlides. Based on the behavioral evidence that i will share below, i am fairly certain that User:Crasyy and User:Historyofarmenia01 are related. Their connection to User:Beyoglou is not equally apparent, and this is why i am requesting confirmation by the CheckUser.

Both User:Crasyy and User:Historyofarmenia01 are relatively new, with a small number of edits; the first has 149 edits and was created about a year ago, while the second has 17 edits and was created about two and a half days ago. As can be seen in the talk page of Karamanlides, and specifically at Talk:Karamanlides § Reply to edit summary of User:Crasyy, User:Crasyy – having previously engaged in an edit war – warned that he/she would return after three days and assume silent consensus for his controversial removals, even though disagreement was already evident; both via the edit summaries of the involved editors, and their comments in the talk page. Exactly three days after the warning of User:Crasyy (15:35, 31 October 2022), User:Historyofarmenia01 appeared in the article to continue the edit war, by removing the very same sourced content (15:11, 3 November 2022). It should also be noted that User:Crasyy was active even after the creation of User:Historyofarmenia01 on 3 November, and thus the possibility that he/she simply forgot his/her password, didn't like his/her username, or just wanted a clean start, have to be ruled out; in the very likely case that we are dealing with the same individual, this is an WP:ILLEGIT use of multiple accounts. The same individual appears to have also logged out of his/her account(s), in order to make identical controversial edits as an IP.

User:Beyoglou comes into the picture via a confirmed sockpuppet of his/her, who likewise engaged in edit war at the very same article, about half a year ago; i am referring to User:Խաղաղություն. Aside of that, both the usernames of User:Խաղաղություն and User:Historyofarmenia01 suggest that they belong to someone who is from Armenia, or to someone who pretends to be from Armenia; the former via the use of the Armenian alphabet, and the latter via his/her explicit mention of Armenia, as well as his/her claim that he/she is a native of Armenia. Another interesting "coincidence" which i observed, is the similarity between the usernames of User:Historyofarmenia01 and User:HistoryofIran; the latter is the one who initiated the first sockpuppet investigation on User:Beyoglou. The interaction with him might have influenced User:Historyofarmenia01's choice for his/her new username. Demetrios1993 (talk) 00:56, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users[edit]

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Comment by HistoryofIran

Looks like Demetrios1993 beat me to it. I wasn't aware of this user named Crasyy, but I had also suspected Historyofarmenia01 of being connected to Beyoglou, who had previously masqueraded as an Armenian [14] and Indian [15] too. It was too easy to see through, in what world is an Armenian slightly interested, let alone obsessed on Turkifiying a relatively unknown Turkey-related article such as Karamanlides? Not to mention Historyofarmenia01's edits are too advanced for a beginner (see their very first edit for example [16], what brand new user knows of Lupin's Anti-vandal tool? I didn't even know what it was until now). Another brand new user (this one is masquerading as a Kurd instead) also started editing around the same time [17], also engaging in Turkic-centred pov pushing. I believe this all goes back to the current massive off-wiki campaign aimed at disrupting Wikipedia [18], which Beyoglou plays a leading part in.

I also believe Historyofarmenia01 has taken inspiration from my name, as Beyoglou was weirdly obsessed with me.

Btw, unfortunately this bizarre behaviour of masquerading as another ethnic group is not only restricted to Beyoglou. Indeffed user Zenzyyx (who also had a history of Turkic-pov pushing) also has a history of masquerading as an Armenian, Brit and whatnot (see [19] for example).

--HistoryofIran (talk) 01:13, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment by Historyofarmenia01

It is very funny that you blame me because you cannot answer my sources and cannot enter the discussion. I have no connection with the people he's talking about. Finally, there must be a connection between HistoryOfIran and Demetrios. I think it's a lobby. If you read the discussion, you will see that HistoryOfIran suddenly got involved in the discussion. But HistoryOfIran has no edit in the karamanlides thread. This is really weird. Historyofarmenia01 (talk) 10:47, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I got involved because I could easily see that you were socking and pushing a Turkish pov under the guise of an “Armenian”. Funny, Beylogu (Belugan) also accused me of teaming up with others. I’ll link the diffs when I’m home. Keep talking, you’re making this case easier. HistoryofIran (talk)
Here it is [20]. Also, "Historyofarmenia01" made another thread yesterday, this time on a mission to Turkify the Scythians [21]. I ask again, what Armenian would ever be slightly interested in Turkic-related stuff, let alone obsessed with it? Heck, some of the sources that "Historyofarmenia01" added here [22] are even written in Turkish [23] or written by a Turkish figure [24]. Can someone block the two accounts of this good for nothing? --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:14, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CIV. You can't insult anyone here. I'm not trying to Iranianise everything like your friend Kansas Bear, who pretends to be an American. :). I only show academic sources, but you try to Iranianise everything. I am not a defender of Turks, I am an enemy of vandals like you. You are part of a lobby because when I looked at your editing history, I noticed that you are a Turcophobe. As I said, I'm nobody's puppet and I don't do vandalism. I make my edits by citing academic sources. But you cannot respond to these sources in any way. You are running away from the discussion. You can only accuse of being such a puppet because you have no counter argument. lol Historyofarmenia01 (talk) 13:27, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What has Kansas Bear to do with this? You haven't even been in contact with him (on this account that is) and yet here you are randomly ranting about him. You are making it more and more obvious that you're not new here. Beyoglou (Belugan) also accused me of trying to "Iranianise" stuff [25] with no proof either. You have socked so many times yet you still don't know the meaning of vandal(ism), lol indeed. Anyhow, there is more than enough proof here now, adios! --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:33, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What you're saying is a load of rubbish. Your involvement in the discussion when you have nothing to do with the incident proves that you are in the lobby. Historyofarmenia01 (talk) 14:39, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment by 95.70.214.41

"I believe this all goes back to the current massive off-wiki campaign aimed at disrupting Wikipedia, which Beyoglou plays a leading part in." There is a massive witchhunt going against a lot of person has nothing to do with our so called "massive discord group". I don't even know any of the banned user excluding my sockpuppet "Crasyy". But as I said they try to accuse all vandals and newcomers on Turkish-topics of being meat puppet and related to our "pan-nationalist" group and block them. It's a concerning situation when it comes to newcomer users who try to edit Turkey related topics. when some of the users that making witch hunt against us notice these newcomers, will try to ban them with accusation of relating to us. Is creating Wikipedia-related community and editing Wikipedia illegal according to policies? Absouletly not. But when it comes to some idiotic teenagers in reddit that has nothing related to us, they made our discord group "Pan-Nationalistic", "Xenophobic". 95.70.214.41 (talk) 14:19, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments[edit]

  • Salvio's findings look to me that they would justify blocks of every account named in this section, including the sleeper Absconcier. Every active account in this group is interested in nationalist topics and is willing to revert. The accounts also appear to support the Turkish side of every dispute, which is not a blockable fact but is an indication of a common attitude. 'History of armenia01' seems to be mocking HistoryofIran. EdJohnston (talk) 22:26, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed. And the comment from History of armenia01'is bizarre, wrong and I might have blocked just for that. Doug Weller talk 19:20, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've blocked the following accounts due to the above rationale:
The master account Beyoglou (talk · contribs) is still indef blocked since August. It appears that tags are justified for all. EdJohnston (talk) 21:50, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Would appreciate if someone more familiar with the case/a CheckUser with access to the detailed findings would tag the accounts mentioned appropriately. DatGuyTalkContribs 15:04, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Tagged. MarioGom (talk) 21:37, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

21 November 2022[edit]

Suspected sockpuppets[edit]

This IP range is obviously used by a sock (or perhaps friend) of the notorious sockpuppeteer Beyoglou. Why do I say friend? Well, Beyoglou is a leading figure of a discord group aimed a disrupting Wikipedia [26], so this IP range could very well be a meatpuppet.

Anyhow, here are the similarities;

First the most obvious one at Vahakn Dadrian; IP restored [27] [28] the edits made by Beyoglou's sock Crasyy, who also attempted to restore it through edit warring [29] [30] [31] [32] [33]

The article was ultimately protected per the following reason which fits well what I've said "Switch to arbitration enforcement protection (WP:AA2) since it's clearly more than simple sockpuppetry". Even an admin, who probably had no idea who Beyoglou/Crasyy were, saw clear signs and had the article protected.

Other examples, both accusing me of "lobbying"/being part of a "lobby" and saying I will get "removed/banned" from Wikipedia soon.

Both also notoriously anti-Iranian;

Judging by all this, the IP range should get a lengthy block imo. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:06, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users[edit]

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Well, Beyoglou is a leading figure of a discord group aimed a disrupting Wikipedia Lmao are you using conspiracy in Wikipedia fr? I was at job while I did this edits, I used both wi-fi and cellular data. So IP range was same but IP's were different. This discord group was amateur and useless thing unlike your ones. Keep manipulating community with that conspiracy and convince them to ban everyone who involved in Turkey-related articles. 178.243.29.201 (talk) 17:11, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment by Demetrios1993

The IP range 78.190.0.0/21 could indeed be used by a meatpuppet; as suggested by HistoryofIran. I might be wrong, but i find the above claim bizarre. Both 178.243.29.201 and the IP range 95.70.214.0/26 – admittedly used by User:Beyoglou – are located in Istanbul; while the suspected for meatpuppetry IP range 78.190.0.0/21 is some 400,000 km away by road, in Çaycuma. If this was indeed the location User:Beyoglou worked, he/she would be spending almost half his/her day in order to make a round trip. Demetrios1993 (talk) 00:33, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also contribution history pattern is also showing that, it's me. 95.70.214.5 (talk) 14:16, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dynamic IP could change. Even after 1 day. 95.70.214.5 (talk) 14:51, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Whether or not these comments are made by a sockpuppet or a meatpuppet is not the primary issue here. The real issue is the ongoing disruptive activity which is admittedly traced back to you; an indefinitely blocked user. I do not claim to know what the best course of action would be, and i am aware that IP addresses should almost never be indefinitely blocked; however, i would imagine that a rangeblock with a length of several months would be the least that can done to combat your activity if this continues. By the way, if i had some additional time to look over the reported IP addresses, i certainly wouldn't have limited the location to just Çaycuma; it appears these dynamic IP addresses involve additional nearby locations (such as Zonguldak) and i would have thus referred to the Zonguldak Province (which also includes Ereğli) instead of just Çaycuma. Now, concerning the secondary matter of sockpuppetry versus meatpuppetry, the reported IP ranges aren't just differentiated in terms of their location, but also in terms of the ISP. In the case of 95.70.208.0/21 (Istanbul) the disruptive IP addresses are assigned by TurkNet, and in the case of 78.190.0.0/21 (Zonguldak Province) the disruptive IP addresses are assigned by Türk Telekom. Then there is 178.243.29.201 (Istanbul) – also admittedly used by you – which is assigned by Turkcell. Can you explain these additional differences? Demetrios1993 (talk) 17:47, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments[edit]

  • 78.190.4.9 is really the only IP from this range that has been active recently, so I've blocked it for the habitual 3 months. Should there be renewed activity from the range, please report. Favonian (talk) 19:58, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Closing. MarioGom (talk) 21:38, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

21 November 2022[edit]

Suspected sockpuppets[edit]

The IP range (which is still active) is clearly used by Beyoglou, as two IPs from that range has literally written in the SPIs of Beyloglou, not concealing that they were him [34] [35]

They even commented in the WP:AN thread regarding the discord group used by Beyoglou and co. [36] [37]

Heck, they even edited his own talk page Beyoglou [38]

At Karamanlides, they supported Beyoglou's sock Crasyy [39] in edit warring [40] [41]

Can this IP range get a lengthy block? HistoryofIran (talk) 17:01, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT: Can an admin also block IP 178.243.29.201 down below? Obviously it's no secret that it's also Beyoglou. --HistoryofIran (talk) 17:31, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users[edit]

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It's not they, It's just me. I used both wi-fi and cellular data in job. And now at home. Ban this too and that's it. But don't delete my statements if you aren't manipulating community. Also I edited my own talk page with IP. Not They. As you wrote in your garbage. 178.243.29.201 (talk) 17:13, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Oh, oh no look at it guys. He attacked me with the word of 'garbage', oh no I live in Denmark." You used same words against me. 178.243.29.201 (talk) 17:14, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm using "they" as a gender neutral pronoun. It's actually sad that you use your free time socking and obsessing over me. You are clearly projecting your IRL issues here. --HistoryofIran (talk) 17:20, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am so obsessed about with your nationalist agenda. I cannot stop thinking it IRL. Got me. 178.243.29.201 (talk) 17:28, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I hope you one day find peace. Know that I have no malice against you, no matter how nasty your comments can be. --HistoryofIran (talk) 17:29, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment by Demetrios1993

I agree with HistoryofIran. The IP range 95.70.208.0/21 is certainly used by User:Beyoglou; as already admitted by him/her. So is 178.243.29.201 apparently. Furthermore, the tendentious editing observed in the article Akhisar, clearly demonstrates that it is related to User:Beyoglou. The IP 95.70.214.28 belongs to the same range as IPs that are suspected to have been used by him/her, the edit he/she made is identical to one made by a confirmed sockpuppet of his/her, and this is the same IP that is mentioned by me in the report from the 6th of November 2022, concerning edits made in the article Karamanlides. Demetrios1993 (talk) 00:33, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment by ZaniGiovanni

Agree with Demetrios1993 and HistoryofIran that 95.70 is a likely sock as well, who somehow found this investigation and commented here multiple times. Also using "MOS:BIO" as their edit summary similarly to the already blocked sock 176.237 by Favonian. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 17:53, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Favonian do you know why this recent IP doesn't show up in the range? It's clearly the same user. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 18:10, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@ZaniGiovanni: 95.70.208.0/21 covers 95.70.208.* through 95.70.215.* Favonian (talk) 18:12, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Favonian, i find your sanctions reasonable, adequate, and in line with WP:IPBLENGTH. I was in fact planning to ask for input by an administrator or a checkuser; per WP:RANGE. Can you also share your opinion on the previous report, concerning 78.190.0.0/21? Demetrios1993 (talk) 17:54, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Demetrios1993. I have replied in the section above. Favonian (talk) 19:59, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments[edit]

30 November 2022[edit]

Suspected sockpuppets[edit]

Looks like Beyoglou is using this IP range as well, considering that the IPs in this range don't exactly make amateur edits, they all seem knowledgeable of Wikipedia. And then there is of course the IP of the range that admitted to being Beyoglou [42]. HistoryofIran (talk) 11:17, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users[edit]

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments[edit]

  • This range has been inactive for a while. no Closing without action. MarioGom (talk) 09:19, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

24 March 2023[edit]

Suspected sockpuppets[edit]

Let's start with the most suspicious one;

At 2022 Istanbul bombing, Blubluman restored [43] the exact same info that Beyoglou's IP tried to restore two months earlier [44]. The IP belongs to the range 95.70.214.0/24, which was blocked [45] during this period for being a sock of Beyoglou.

For at person with less than 100 edits, Blubluman sure knows his guidelines [46] [47]

They're apparently also aware of a RSN discussion from 2014 (!!) which they used to justify their removal of info about the Armenian genocide [48] [49]. And contrary to his claim, the discussion never reached any consensus, so either he misunderstood what it was about or he is pov pushing.

Blubluman made his first edit in 20 November 2022, coincidentally in the same period in which Beyoglou was socking through several IPs [50]

Even if this isn't Beyoglou, there's no way this is a new user. Beyoglou is after all a leading member of the discord group aimed at disrupting Wikipedia [51] HistoryofIran (talk) 00:20, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@AmandaNP: Sorry, but I dont understand why the checkuser was declined. He literally restored a 2 month old edit by a notorious sockpuppeeter. Is that not evidence enough? HistoryofIran (talk) 12:24, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
[52] So apparently Blubluman is aware of a user who was indeffed in 2011, and accuses another user he literally just had contact with of being a sock of said user. This is just more evidence that they're not new here. Imho there is more than enough evidence, can an admin please do a behavioural investigation? They're currently pov editing in several articles as we speak. --HistoryofIran (talk) 22:50, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
[53] Allegation of pov is just a personal comment. Blubluman (talk) 23:00, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kevorkmail/Archive Blubluman (talk) 23:04, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
And my point still stands; why would you be aware of this SPI? Was your first thought when being reverted by Kevo327 to search him up at SPI to see if he has socked before? No one does that. It's also irrelevant, as he wasn't blocked for this SPI. The same can't be said for a certain someone though.. --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:30, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users[edit]

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Comment by Demetrios1993

Hello Amanda. Besides User:Beyoglou, i assume that there must be some data available from the other associated accounts; they are listed in the report of 6 November 2022. Demetrios1993 (talk) 00:17, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments[edit]

02 June 2023[edit]

Suspected sockpuppets[edit]

This range is still being used at large by the LTA Beyoglou. It was previously used here [54]

At Talk:Cretan Muslims, they ranted about them being Turks [55], compare the edits of one his socks where he attempted to do that in that article [56]

They made another childish attack towards me [57], compare that to [58]

Brand new IP which knows of MOS:BIO? [59]

A typical anti-Iranian edit and comment [60], compare it to [61]

Also, click here [62] and Ctrl + F "revert". You'll see the majority of the edits in this range have been reverted.

Can we please give this range a lengthy block? HistoryofIran (talk) 01:57, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT: Once again, the LTA is not even trying to hide that they're socking [63] [64] HistoryofIran (talk) 21:40, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
EDIT 2: They're still editing through that range [65] [66] --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:08, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
EDIT 3: They're still at it [67]. --HistoryofIran (talk) 17:37, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users[edit]

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments[edit]

  • OK, so looking at that range, I do see a lot of stuff that looks like them. There are likely other people too, but the amount of useful collateral is small compared to the amount of abuse. Blocking for a while, closing. Girth Summit (blether) 20:08, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

14 June 2023[edit]

Suspected sockpuppets[edit]


  1. This user appears around the same time Beyoglou was socking through several IPs, as seen in the other ongoing SPI report [68].
  2. Username is similar to my own username, which wouldn't be the first time Beyoglou did that, as they're obsessed with me [69]
  3. One of the first articles they edit is one edited by me, essentially reverting me [70]. Beylogou and his socks used to follow me (aka WP:HOUNDING) a lot too (eg [71] [72])
  4. Does not edit like a new user at all, formats citations like a experienced user [73] [74]. This is not even remotely close to how new users start their Wikipedia adventure
  5. Their name has "Mongolia" in it but they engage in Turkic-centered pov edits, using a non-WP:RS [75] and adding their own commentary to push their POV [76]. Beyoglou is a notorious POV pusher, trying to make everything appear Turkic, it's basically there to see on all their SPI reports.
  6. Uses the same ":)" smiley [77] as Beyoglou [78] [79] [80] HistoryofIran (talk) 17:56, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
EDIT: One of Beyoglous socks Alper sm (blocked for disruptive editing) is trying to get his block lifted as we speak, they haven't been tagged as Beylogous sock yet. Can an admin please do that? --HistoryofIran (talk) 01:03, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users[edit]

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments[edit]

I've gone ahead and blocked based on activity spotted from my watchlist--I haven't closely compared HistoryofMongolia to the alleged master, and blocked on the basis of obviously being someone's sock based on their username and edits thus far, as well as their obvious intent to harass HoI. I've tagged as "unconfirmed" for now, pending CU investigation. signed, Rosguill talk 14:45, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following three accounts are  Confirmed to User:Beyoglou who was fortunately still active:
EdJohnston (talk) 17:03, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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