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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 27, 2023.

Wikipedia:M/R

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 4#Wikipedia:M/R

Desegregation

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Racial integration. ✗plicit 23:29, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The United States is not the only place where desegregation has occurred (hence the page being moved), and this is gradually attracting incorrect bluelinks from editors who reasonably expect this to be about desegregation in general—see e.g. backlinks at Joram van Klaveren and Bermuda. I propose to bypass all U.S.-specific redirects and then retarget to Racial integration as an {{r from related term}}/{{r with possibilities}}. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 22:37, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Jawid Safi (Javad Safaee)

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The result of the discussion was delete. I also went ahead and revision deleted the hijacked version of the article in an effort to help prevent future hijackings. -- Tavix (talk) 19:09, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect exists because of a sockpuppet hijacking an article about Jawid Safi, a cricket player, and trying to turn it into an article about a Javad (or Jawid) Safaee, a singer. I think having this redirect from a bad-intentioned page move is just encouragement for future attempts from this sockfarm to turn this redirect page into an article. I don't think it is a likely search term either. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 19:56, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Ice Dragon (Kirby)

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 23:30, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:10, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Holy Nightmare Corporation

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Kirby characters#NightMare Enterprises. ✗plicit 23:30, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:06, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Moment (time)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 5#Moment (time)

افغانستان.

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 3#افغانستان.

Patrol rifle

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The result of the discussion was delete. There was consensus that the current target is wrong, but there was no support for the alternate targets suggested. Participants have shown interest in a standalone article for this topic. Jay 💬 07:56, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target. Google's definition of a patrol rifle is: A patrol rifle is an authorized weapon which is owned by the officer or by the Department and which is made available to properly trained and qualified officers as a supplemental resource to their duty handgun or shotgun. If I understand that correctly, a patrol rifle need not be an assault weapon and certainly, assault weapons are not necessarily patrol rifles. Pichpich (talk) 13:51, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Agree, but the problem is even bigger than that. "Assault weapon" is a political term generally referring to firearms often own-able by civilians. The military ones have full auto capability and aren't. "Patrol rifle" should have it's own small term-centric article. Until then Assault rifle would be a less problematic/ better target. North8000 (talk) 14:16, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Change target to Semi-automatic rifle - First, I fully agree that pointing this redirect to Assault weapon is simply wrong. But it does seem (even according to nom) that "patrol rifle" is at least an official designation in use by some organizations, I know I hear it used with regularity on "cop shows" on TV. Unlike Assault weapon (very commonly confused with Assault rifle, as anyone that follows those two articles knows well), which is not a specific classification of weapons issued to an individual (military or not). To be honest, I would rather see this turned into a real article (at least a stub), a 'la Service rifle or Battle rifle, but certainly no reason to delete. - Adolphus79 (talk) 14:30, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. An ambiguous adjective-noun combination. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:26, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete this is particularly a temporal redirect, it depends on era. A breech-loading short carbine needle-gun or a cavalry carbine version of a battle rifle, etc could also be meant by this -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 08:10, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - it does seem that while it is a term in-use, its specific meaning varies between contexts to an extent that would be difficult to disambiguate directly. signed, Rosguill talk 19:51, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Warmage

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Complete Arcane. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 19:02, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target. Also a recurring Final Fantasy class, so it's overly vague to be redirecting here regardless. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:08, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Alphabet mafia

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The result of the discussion was retarget to LGBT community. signed, Rosguill talk 19:48, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Some possible targets could be the same as Lavender Mafia or LGBT community. Currently, LGBT#Variants mentions alphabet soup (linguistics). When Demi Lovato came out as pansexual she used "alphabet mafia", so there are some news using this term as well (not sure if reliable as sources). Xdtp (talk) 19:21, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect where it can be mentioned and referenced. Otherwise redirect to Demi Lovato AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 21:33, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Convert to {{Wiktionary redirect}} to wikt:alphabet mafia. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 23:02, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm okay with QuietHere's suggestion of using Wiktionary. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 03:24, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Gobbo (character)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Gobbo. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 19:01, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No evidence of notability, WP:RS WP:OR. Even the parent article Make Way for Noddy doesn't appear to bother linking to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.218.18.234 (talk) 14:07, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Brunswick three

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The result of the discussion was keep. Jay 💬 18:08, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not used in the target. Searching Google for "Brunswick three" finds nothing relating to the Arbery murder, so it's an unlikely search term. Pichpich (talk) 13:37, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep, tentatively. I can't find that this term is ambiguous after a reasonably thorough search. It's a bigoted alt-right term, yes, which does provoke a desire to delete. But then again, some naïve bloke who hears the term "Brunswick three" and wants to find out more would hopefully be drawn away from those perilous circles by this article contradicting them. J947 † edits 01:30, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - it does seem that Brunswick Three is persistently used in white nationalist circles to refer to the murderers of Ahmaud Arbery. I saw use of "Brunswick Four" in a Canadian context but did not come across any other Brunswick Threes, so I don't see the ambiguity. We can tag it with {{R from non-neutral name}} and {{R from related topic}} signed, Rosguill talk 19:46, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Ben Carlton

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 12:26, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Carlton has nothing to do with Benedict Cumberbatch Dr vulpes (💬 • 📝) 06:35, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is selecting parts of Cumberbatch's full name and assuming he has used that as a stage name. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:04, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There's also a character named Ben Carlton in a film Prince of the City as listed in Michael Madsen filmography. Searches also show an author/activist. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:07, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete per Nyttend. He did not actually use this stage name so I can't see someone searching this looking for Cumberbatch when there are also non-notable things this can refer to. If kept I think mention would need to be added but I don't think it would be justified. A7V2 (talk) 08:26, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Ice Blonde

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The result of the discussion was delete. Feel free to create the redirect Ice blonde if you feel that's needed. Wiktionary has an entry: wikt:ice blonde. wbm1058 (talk) 15:26, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ice Blonde has no relation to Flora Gionest-Roussy Dr vulpes (💬 • 📝) 04:46, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment So I tried quite a few google searches, and not finding much (for example, there's someone named Fleur East, who apparently went "ice blonde" at some point). I did find some singer/group (hard to tell which) who has an album on several music sites: "Eyes Go Lightning", with the album titled "Ice Blonde". But didn't find anything tying that to Flora Gionest-Roussy. All I found for stage names for that singer were: Silver Catalano, and FLORAA. So, unless we have more info, I don't think we have verification for that redirect to point to that article. - jc37 21:39, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Redirect per User:AngusWOOF. Per wikt:Ice blonde, and a lot of google results: [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13]. (A lot of magazines, hair care or salon sites, and blogs, among other things.) Apparently ice blonde is a slightly more blue-ish and/or silver-ish platinum blonde. I was going to try to add ice blonde to the line of platinum blonde examples, but I didn't want to mess up the heavy use of wiki sytax there : ) - jc37 03:00, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - without a clear connection which can be added to the article, or a viable alternative target, this is just confusing to a would-be searcher. A7V2 (talk) 08:28, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Wayne Carter

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 5#Wayne Carter

Dylan and Eric

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 18:59, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Way too ambiguous. Do you know how many Dylans and Erics exist? QuicoleJR (talk) 13:15, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I thought Bob DYLAN recorded with ERIC Clapton. WWGB (talk) 13:48, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Melbourne, Australia.

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Yann Gonzalez

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 12:25, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Family member of article subject" redirect for a person who's too notable in his own right to be buried that way. Filmmaker Yann Gonzalez is indeed the brother of M83's Anthony Gonzalez, per [14] -- but with multiple film award wins (including two at Cannes) and two notable feature films (You and the Night, Knife+Heart) under his belt, he has more than enough notability in his own right to merit his own standalone WP:BLP instead of just being a redirect to his younger brother. So this should be deleted to facilitate the creation of an actual article; the fact that it's a redirect, and therefore a blue link in the articles that are already linking to it, is almost certainly the reason it isn't already a real article. Bearcat (talk) 05:00, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Cult scale

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 4#Cult scale

Lone Star Lake (Texas)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 3#Lone Star Lake (Texas)

Dark Mind

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate as drafted by AngusWOOF. (non-admin closure) J947 † edits 01:15, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No longer mentioned in the target. A generic term too, as this term is mentioned in List of Kamen Rider Ghost characters and Kirby & the Amazing Mirror. Could potentially be redirected to Dark Mind, Dark Heart too. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 16:34, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Fuxk

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. -- Tavix (talk) 15:36, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Recently created but don't quite meet the WP:R3 CSD criteria. We do not need every possible bowdlerization of fuck and shit. Given that these are not listed on the target pages, I see little point in keeping them. Note also Fukc being discussed further down the page Primefac (talk) 08:01, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep all. Due to the ubiquity of the two target words, a wide variety of bowdlerizations are employed, and all of those bowdlerizations are plausible search terms. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 22:56, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep all - Unambiguous redirects, potentially useful, and WP:CHEAP applies. Can definitely see kids typing any or all of these into the search bar. I can also see ESL/EFL students coming across a bowdlerization and not knowing what it means... wikipedia is a useful tool for them. Fieari (talk) 06:36, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep all per Tamzin and Fieari, I think Shxt and F u c k are more of a stretch than the other two, which are indeed quite common in my experience, and I can't think of another word that Shxt is a plausible typo for, noting x's position on the keyboard (not a likely accidental click for any other letter that could go there) and in the word (there are very few words 1-char distance away from shxt, no matter which letter you swap--to wit sext, shut, shat, shot, but none of those swaps make sense as a keyboard typo other than maybe "shat", which is just the past tense form of "shit".) signed, Rosguill talk 19:42, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    "Shxt" could also be "shot" or "shut". Steel1943 (talk) 20:01, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all: delete the ones with Xs as ambiguous ("shxt" could be shot and shut, "fxck" could be feck, fack, fick and fock, "fuxk" could be fulk and funk), delete the one with spaces as unlikely. Steel1943 (talk) 20:00, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep all as helpful. Not ambiguous because there's no reason any significant proportion of readers would censor terms like shut and fulk, and the non-swearwords are also much less likely to be searched in general. J947 † edits 05:49, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Fukc

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The result of the discussion was keep. Jay 💬 10:17, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's a four-letter word - how can someone really misspell that? Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 06:28, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

More likely as a typo. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 06:49, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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