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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 28, 2022.

Iranian people

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Iranians. Legoktm (talk) 01:01, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Iranians. Privybst (talk) 21:25, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Palauan people

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The result of the discussion was Procedural close. Nominator has been blocked as a sockpuppet. Thryduulf (talk) 23:07, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Palauans and Palauan people should redirect to the same article. Micronesians#Palauans or Demographics of Palau? Privybst (talk) 19:36, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Glennznl I convinced that Micronesians#Palauans would be better target as you said that people typing this title into the search bar are looking for the ethnic group, not demographics. But let us hear another opinion. Privybst (talk) 10:04, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Boo Buddy

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The result of the discussion was delete. Thryduulf (talk) 10:56, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A Variant of the boo. Not found in article and doesn’t have any sources to warrant a mention. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 19:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hammer and Chisel

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 6#Hammer and Chisel

Queen's speech

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 5#Queen's speech

Dark boo

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The result of the discussion was delete. Thryduulf (talk) 10:59, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A minor enemy from the Paper Mario series. Not mentioned in article and doesn’t have any sources to warrant it a mention. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 19:05, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Kyrgyzstani (disambiguation)

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The result of the discussion was nomination withdrawn. Thryduulf (talk) 09:48, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Kyrgyzstani redirects to Demographics of Kyrgyzstan per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 11#Uzbekistani. Privybst (talk) 19:04, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Uzbekistani (disambiguation)

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The result of the discussion was nomination withdrawn. Thryduulf (talk) 09:49, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Uzbekistani redirects to Demographics of Uzbekistan per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 11#Uzbekistani. Privybst (talk) 19:03, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Kazakhstani (disambiguation)

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The result of the discussion was nomination withdrawn. Thryduulf (talk) 09:49, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I retargeted Kazakhstani to Demographics of Kazakhstan and added hatnote in Demographics of Kazakhstan. Per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 11#Uzbekistani. Privybst (talk) 19:02, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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You know what they say, the more the merrier!

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The result of the discussion was Delete. Thryduulf (talk) 11:00, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A quote from Dr. Eggman himself. It is not referenced in the article. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 18:30, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Chuckles The Echidna

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The result of the discussion was Delete. Thryduulf (talk) 11:00, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely typo. Most likely also a joke since he “doesn’t chuckle”. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 18:22, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Mecha Knuckles

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The result of the discussion was Delete. Thryduulf (talk) 11:01, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A boss from Sonic Advance. Not mentioned in either article. Possibly WP:Gamecruft? Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 18:20, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Unknown from M.E

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The result of the discussion was Delete. Thryduulf (talk) 11:01, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The title is Knuckles’s theme song from Sonic Adventure. Nowhere to be found on Wikipedia and we don’t have a article on the music of Sonic Adventure. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 18:17, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Bridgit (software)

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per WP:CSD#G5 - the creator has been blocked as a sockpuppet. Thryduulf (talk) 10:12, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Software tool not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 17:15, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Eastern civilization

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Eastern culture (disambiguation). (non-admin closure) Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 14:43, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Eastern world. Privybst (talk) 13:35, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. As with "western cizilization" (see comments below) Furius (talk) 14:31, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Western civilization

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Western culture (disambiguation). (non-admin closure) Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 14:42, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Western world. Privybst (talk) 13:35, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I think "Western civilization" usually refers to culture, rather than to the political bloc (which is largely the focus of Western world). Western culture even opens "Western culture, also known as Western civilization, Occidental culture, or Western society..." [Edit: User:Carchasm's proposal is better, let's do that.] Furius (talk) 14:29, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Western culture (disambiguation) - we already have a page to distinguish between the concepts and western civilization could be either world or culture. - car chasm (talk) 14:41, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Gold Dry Bowser

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 15:38, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A minor character from Mario Kart Tour. Not mentioned in article. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 13:30, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Kerog

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The result of the discussion was Delete. Thryduulf (talk) 11:02, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be tagged as R From an incorrect name. But has had 0 page views in the last 30 days. Apparently a book called Bowser by this name. I really doubt any one will type this into the search bar if they are looking for Bowser. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 13:25, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Bowser Sr.

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The result of the discussion was Keep. Thryduulf (talk) 11:03, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

These terms is not used in any Wikipedia article. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 13:16, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Sovereign state that's a member of the UN in its own right

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of sovereign states. (non-admin closure) Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 14:40, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody will use this sentense for a search. Privybst (talk) 13:07, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Struck vote, despite watching lots of Only Connect, I've somehow not watched Pointless and probably should start watching it (or at the very least, reading the article history on redirects that have weird names because the names are often explained there. trout Self-trout). TartarTorte 13:12, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Oversaturated

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Saturation. (non-admin closure) Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 14:38, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Usage on Wikipedia is mostly for excessive market saturation, or other uses. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 13:04, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Shrowser

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 15:32, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of this character anywhere on Wikipedia. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 13:04, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • The term refers to a form Bowser assumes at the end of Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time. Either retarget to that game with a mention or delete if the mention is undue weight. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 16:11, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per "No mention of this character anywhere on Wikipedia." No mention is no mention, meaning readers searching this term will find no information anywhere, regardless what other subject on Wikipedia the subject of this redirect may have a strong connection to (Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time). Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The king of second bananas

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The result of the discussion was Delete. Thryduulf (talk) 11:05, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently a meme but it is not mentioned in the article. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 12:49, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Engla

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 6#Engla

SBS0

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:28, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Network 0-28

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:27, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Channel 11 Australia

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:27, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). Also not a legitimate former name for the article topic. – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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BBC 3 (disambiguation)

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:27, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Eleven (Australian television channel)

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:26, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). Unnecessary alternate form of article's former name Eleven (Australian TV channel) which breaks the MOS format for TV channel article names. – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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X TEN Australia

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:26, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). Also not a legitimate former name for the article topic. – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Channel Ten Australia

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 5#Channel Ten Australia

Independent Television System

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:25, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Snowy Mountains TV

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:25, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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1 HD (Australia)

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:25, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Channel 31 Sydney

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:24, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Sydney's TVS

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 5#Sydney's TVS

Digital 44 Sydney

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:24, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Channel 4 (AU)

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:23, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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LINC TV Lismore

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:23, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). Also unnecessary disambig. – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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ACE TV (Adelaide)

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:23, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Channel 31 Adelaide

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:22, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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CTS (TV station)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to CTS#Television. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:22, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). Also not a legitimate name for the article topic. – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Network 7 Australia

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:21, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Prime Television (Australia)

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:21, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). Also unnecessary disambig when Prime Television exists. – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Prime TV Australia

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 10:21, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion under WP:RFD#DELETE (1) and (2). – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Warren Pineda

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 05:38, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No longer mentioned the target for over 10 years. 2600:1700:9BF3:220:B8D6:4AA9:CD91:CD00 (talk) 04:54, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Moonu nombu

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 5#Draft:Moonu nombu

Flying Pig Enterprises

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 05:32, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target. Not sure what the connection may be, if any. Searching finds a shell website for FPE but that doesn't give any information. Delete. MB 03:54, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete there is/was a comics publisher called Flying Pig Enterprises, [1] says that Gary Spencer Millidge drew the cover for one of their comics, so possibly he worked there or had some ownership in the company. However it isn't mentioned in the article so it isn't a reasonable redirect. Hut 8.5 18:27, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Private Meeting

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Initialisation and Support Application

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:53, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target, vague term that could apply to many products. Delete. MB 03:09, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Gender violence

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Gender-related violence. (non-admin closure)Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 03:27, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Gender violence also includes Violence against men and Violence against LGBT people. Current redirections violate WP:NPOV. Sharouser (talk) Sharouser (talk) 00:51, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've added {{old rfd list}} noting the prior discussion, but Sharouser you should really have done that yourself as the editor listing this discussion, or at least indicated the content of the past discussion in your opening statement. signed, Rosguill talk 01:05, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep unchanged. As I said the last time OP made this nomination over a year ago, this is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and should be kept to avoid WP:FALSEBALANCE. The idea that violence against LGBT people is gender-based violence, per se, rather than its own type, appears to be WP:Original research. Indeed, the vast majority of LGBT people are men or women; implying that is a separate gender seems rather sketchy. Most important, though, is what the most reliable sources say, and here is what Google Scholar turns up: 1. Extent and nature of the problem - Gender-based violence includes a host of harmful behaviors that are directed at women and girls because of their sex, including... [3] In 1993, the United Nations General Assembly defined violence against women as “any act of gender-based violence that results in, or is likely to result in, physical, sexual or psychological harm or suffering to women” (United Nations, 1993). The United Nations referred to “gender-based” violence to acknowledge that such violence is rooted in gender inequality and is often tolerated and condoned by laws, institutions and community norms; it is not only a manifestation of gender-inequality, but often serves to enforce it (Heise, Ellsberg and Gottemoeller, 1999). Gender-based violence comes in many forms throughout the life cycle; this review focuses on the two most common types: physical intimate partner violence and sexual violence against women by any perpetrator. (2005 review) Primary prevention programs address the underlying attitudes, norms, and behaviors that support GBV. The ultimate goals are to end violence, empower women and girls, and promote nonviolent, equitable, and respectful relationships. [4] This 2020 paper uses the term and is about violence against women. Again and again Google Scholar shows that the term is specifically about violence against women and girls. One quote above shows why - it's rooted in systemic gender inequality. The sources are clear and we must follow them. Crossroads -talk- 02:35, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    None of those quotes actually do show that, they all say that gender-based violence includes violence against women and/or that violence against women is an example of gender-based violence. Thryduulf (talk) 03:15, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disambig (second choice add a hatnote to a disambig), because while violence against women is one of the most prevalent expressions of gender-based violence, women are far from the only victims and increasingly many organisations and journal articles do not confine the term to just women. For example:
    • "Long before Covid-19, women, girls, trans and non-binary people were already facing an equally devastating but largely ignored pandemic." -Oxfam
    • "Gender based violence (GBV) is [...] committed primarily but not exclusively against women by men." -Public Health Scotland
    • "GBV is violence directed against a person because of that person's gender or violence that affects persons of a particular gender disproportionately. [...] It can include violence against women, domestic violence against women, men or children living in the same domestic unit." European Union
    • "Gender-based violence is violence directed against a person because of their gender. Both women and men experience gender-based violence but the majority of victims are women and girls." European Institute for Gender Equality
    • "Gender-based violence (GBV) is an umbrella term for any harm that is perpetrated against a person’s will and that results from power inequalities based on gender roles." Wirtz, A. 2018 'Gender-Based Violence Against Transgender People in the United States: A Call for Research and Programming'
    • "While initially focused primarily on men’s violence against women (VAW) [...] the definitions of GBV used by different governments and organisations have expanded to include violence against the LGBTQIA+ community, and sometimes violence against men. [...] many groups who also experience GBV, often at higher rates than the cis-gendered women who are traditionally seen as its victims or survivors." Graaf, K. 2021 'The Implications of a Narrow Understanding of Gender-Based Violence'.
    Nobody is arguing that women are not the only victims of GBV, just that GBV does not exclusively refer to violence against women by men, indeed one journal article focused in part on gender-based violence among men who have sex with men (not quoted above as the definition is not included in the freely-available part). Thryduulf (talk) 03:15, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Thryduulf: this is not an appropriate title for disambiguation, as the proposed topics are not unrelated. Now, if there was a notable album titled Gender Violence, or a TV episode or the like, then we would have actual title ambiguity. What you are looking for here is a WP:BROADCONCEPT article on the general subject of violence motivated by gender. BD2412 T 05:47, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      Whatever it is technically, there should be a page that performs the function of linking to all our articles about specific types of gender-based violence. I don't mind if that's a disambig, a set-index, broad concept article, a list or something else. Please take my "disambig" !vote as a reference to any of those. Thryduulf (talk) 09:06, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep unchanged. Examining sources in the violence against women article and more generally, "gender-based violence" is used as a synonym for "violence against women" in particular. The violence is disproportionately directed against them. Originoa (talk) 06:28, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Gender-related violence, which Thryduulf created based on a draft we wrote together in the previous RfD, per his arguments above and his and my arguments last year. This redirect currently does not point where most readers would expect it to. If there's a desire for that DAB page to be a broad-concept article instead, it can be tagged with {{Broad-concept article}}, but the perfect is the enemy of the good. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 15:06, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd forgotten I created that, it is indeed the ideal target for these redirects. Thryduulf (talk) 16:45, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to gender-related violence -- 65.92.247.226 (talk) 04:14, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 02:47, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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English-language given names

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