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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 18, 2022.

Orange team[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. With no prejudice against creation of a disambiguation page, as until someone attempts to create one, we won't know if too many entries is an imaginary problem. Jay 💬 08:15, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hardly the only team to use orange (off the top of my head, Cincinnati Bengals, Fighting Illini, Netherlands national football team, and presumably many more). The edit summary of lol does not inspire confidence that there's an underlying justification here. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 18:12, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, retarget or setindexify. The various Syracuse Orange teams (primarily the football team season articles) all-but fill the first page of internal search results for the term, looking for the exact phrase Euskaltel–Euskadi (1994–2013) tops the list (a Spanish cycling team, "Euskaltel–Euskadi was famous for its all-orange team kits."); Envigado F.C.'s nickname translates to "The Orange Team" as does C.D. Filanbanco's; IF Lyseng Fodbold is "known for their iconic orange team colour", Orange Athletic Club seem to have had teams referred to as the "Orange team"; UE Sant Julià are apparently known as "l'equip taronja (the orange team) or el club taronja (the orange club)". Multiple reality TV shows have also had orange teams. If someone wants to create a set index of teams that have notably played in orange and/or been named orange then imo they should feel free to go ahead and do that. It could alternatively redirect to Orange#Sports where some of the above should be added. Thryduulf (talk) 19:21, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Orange#Sports or disambiguate. Numerous examples of teams associated with orange are listed above, so it's not an entirely implausible search. Similar to blue team which redirects to a disambiguation page (Blue Team). Searching "orange+team" yields hundreds of thousands of results, but without a clear topic. Disambiguating "Orange Team" on its own page may be better, since many of the search results aren't related sports teams. However, Wikipedia probably doesn't have articles relevant to those results, so Orange#Sports might be good enough for now. The phrase "Orange team" is used on a number of Wikipedia articles, but, again, no consistent referent (although the Orange Athletic Club football team comes up a number of times). – Scyrme (talk) 19:53, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: There are just too many orange teams for this to reasonably work as a disambiguation unless it's specifically teams with the name orange, but that's unlikely to be what the reader is looking for. I think that if this were to be disambiguated or listified then it would either have too strict of inclusion criteria to help the user find what they are looking for or will list every sports team that uses orange as a color, which is just way too many. TartarTorte 00:26, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    It only needs to list those which actually have articles, not literally every such team. Are there really that many articles that are applicable? If not, this is an imaginary problem. – Scyrme (talk) 16:13, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    In North American major 4 professional sports there are by my count 16 teams that could count as the "orange team", which is ~13% of the teams we have in said category. If that extrapolates out to minor league teams (which I have not counted due to how many of them, but we have articles for every MiLB team and every G League team), there'd be ~60 entries from North American baseball, basketball, football, and hockey alone. It just to me seems like it would be too much because my number is only counting teams mostly in the United States and some of Canada, but excludes the rest of the world, so I could reasonably see our having articles on 150 teams that could be described as the "orange team". TartarTorte 16:57, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: the words 'orange team' are used 0 times in the Greater Western Sydney Giants article. Agree this is far too complicate to disambiguate, and Orange#Sports does not seem like a proper redirect for 'orange team'. Criticalus (talk) 02:57, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Agreed there are too many targets, e.g. this lists a number of orange American college football teams, not to mention other sports. Legoktm (talk) 00:34, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Jolly Roger Bay[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Legoktm (talk) 00:37, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in article. Could maybe be redirected to Jolly Roger but I’m not sure. If we do delete this redirect then we probably should delete the mention at Jolly Roger (disambiguation). Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 13:20, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep Redirecting to Jolly Roger is not appropriate as anyone searching for Jolly Roger Bay is likely expecting the Super Mario 64 level. Not being mentioned in the article is a fair point, though. It should be deleted if not kept. WPscatter t/c 03:31, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - not mentioned at target, no suitable target seems to exist. A7V2 (talk) 02:05, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Flyers Skate Zone[edit]

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Les Widdifield[edit]

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Annoying Dog[edit]

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Sovereign Protectors[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Delete some, Retarget some, Renominate one, and No Consensus on whether to disambiguate or retarget the others. However I have retargeted the No Consensus ones roughly based on the title as there was no support for the status quo..

Nowhere listed at target page. Delete. TNstingray (talk) 13:31, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I agree with Thryduulf's suggestions. A large number of these terms are not exclusive or original to Star Wars; retargeting/disambiguating them is much more helpful than nuking the lot.
Regarding "Royal Guardman", Royal Guardsmen already exists but is a redirect to The Royal Guardsmen, a rock band; it may be better to add that to the list for disambiguation rather than retargeting so that the plural and singular point to the same place. – Scyrme (talk) 21:41, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't object to that, but I think it's probably worth having a separate discussion about whether Royal Guardsmen has a primary topic and if so what it is - without knowing the band exists I'd have expected it to also land at Royal guard. Thryduulf (talk) 21:48, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That's fair. The important thing is that the singulars and plurals are both dealt with, to avoid confusing inconsistencies. – Scyrme (talk) 22:28, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. If @TNstingray is agreeable then perhaps Royal Guardsman can be withdrawn from this nomination in favour of a separate discussion about it and Royal Guardsmen (with pings to the others who have commented here @Pppery, @Jontesta). Thryduulf (talk) 22:40, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think I'd prefer royal guard rather than the band I had never heard of as a target for both Royal Guardsmen and Royal Guardsman, but I agree that should be the subject of a separate discussion. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:43, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear, I never suggested that. I agree that the band should not be the target for both. One of them already targets the band; my suggestion was to change that. – Scyrme (talk) 23:12, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am agreeable to any and all changes the community deems to be best for the advancement of the encyclopedia. TNstingray (talk) 00:49, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Thryduulf: Has a discussion on Royal Guardsman/Royal Guardsmen been initiated yet? Or will that start after this one has concluded? – Scyrme (talk) 13:06, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm waiting a bit longer to see if @Jontesta has an opinion about my suggestion above (and haven't had much Wikipedia time today) but unless they (or someone else) objects I expect to do that and start a new discussion about that and the plural probably tomorrow. I've also got no objection to someone else doing that before I get to it). Thryduulf (talk) 14:59, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disambiguate/listify/setindexify guards per Thryduulf -- 65.92.247.226 (talk) 03:48, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Retarget "Royal Guardsman" per Thryduulf
      • Retarget protectors per Thryduulf -- 65.92.247.226 (talk) 03:48, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        • Retarget per Thryduulf and in the spirit of consensus building. Jontesta (talk) 14:05, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Thryduulf: can you clarify on your Disambig/Set indexify vote? I assume you are looking at retargetting the ones listed in that vote to a disambiguation page. Which page, and what will that page contain? Jay 💬 08:25, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know of an existing disambiguation page, I guess Royal Guard (disambiguation) would be the best title, but I'm not set. As for what it would contain, "Royal guard, Imperial guard and the various instances of guards with similar titles throughout history" Thryduulf (talk) 09:27, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thinking about it, is disambiguation needed? Royal guard § List of royal guards and Imperial guard § List of imperial guards already exist; the latter article also has Imperial guard § Fiction. The lists could be split off as set indices or list articles, or we could just target the articles and leave it there. – Scyrme (talk) 13:00, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Croatia/Hrvatska[edit]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Legoktm (talk) 00:40, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Croatia is obviously a good title, and as the native name Hrvatska is obviously a good redirect, but I don't think putting them together like this makes a good redirect. I've looked at all the redirects to around three quarters of European countries recently and this is the first of this sort I've seen. Thryduulf (talk) 20:31, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: This just seem to be a very unlikely search term and the page views show that as well. Over the past 7 years it's had a total of 266 pageviews, at times going months without a pageview. Would be unlikely to harm much if deleted. TartarTorte 20:36, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, 266 pageviews is a fair few, more than the bottish 50–150 range. This formatting is how it's listed on several databases (well, at least two from a quick check); a plausible copy-and-paste IMO. J947 † edits 20:49, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep per J947. Seems reasonably likely it would be listed this way in databases etc so I agree it could be a copy paste search term. No harm from keeping. A7V2 (talk) 02:13, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Secretary of the Treasury[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. The US position seems to be the primary topic. (non-admin closure) Clyde!Franklin! 02:24, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not the only Secretary of the Treasury. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 21:27, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure why you're nominating these. Are you proposing disambiguating between the current target and Chief Secretary to the Treasury? – Scyrme (talk) 21:40, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Neveselbert, are you proposing to retarget all to Secretary of the Treasury (disambiguation)? TartarTorte 22:26, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    If so, I think this might be a move request because you'd want to move Secretary of the Treasury (disambiguation) to Secretary of the Treasury with that as a WP:PTOPIC, but I could be wrong about that. TartarTorte 22:28, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I didn't know Secretary of the Treasury (disambiguation) existed, due to the lack of a hatnote which Mdewman6 has now added. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 23:49, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. There was not a hatnote to the dab page at the current target, which I have added. The dab page also needs expansion. I think this is fine as a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT for now, but would not oppose moving the disambiguation page if there were evidence there was no primary topic. This could be decided via a requested move discussion, though some users prefer to discuss moving dab pages over primary redirects at Rfd, since it's the fate of the page with the base name at issue. Mdewman6 (talk) 22:56, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move "Secretary of the Treasury (disambiguation)" to "Secretary of the Treasury" as there are other Secretaries outside of the US office. I'm fine with the hatnote but I'm leaning more on moving the dab. --Lenticel (talk) 01:49, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep There is a clear primary topic here, which is the current target. It's worth noting that, of the entries at the DAB page, the U.S. and C.S.A. positions are the only "Secretaries of the Treasury." The UK and Hong Kong titles use different prepositions, and the Hong Kong position is the only one of the two which is actually equivalent to the U.S. position. (The UK equivalent here would be Chancellor of the Exchequer). - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:51, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Per Presidentman. As the US Secretary of the Treasury is by far the most notable extant post with that name. There does seem to be a Sri Lankan Secretary of the Treasury (also referred to as Secretary to the Treasury) , but it's the equivalent of an undersecretary position in the United States being a secretary within a cabinet level ministry, but the head of that ministry being the MP responsible, not the secretary. TartarTorte 12:34, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per TartarTorte. The U.S. cabinet position appears to be the WP:PTOPIC for each of the terms and the redirects should remain as such. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 05:51, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Post-Soviet studies[edit]

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Zorro Reborn[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:39, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

These both target different places but neither have a mention of Zorro Reborn. The only mention I can find of Zorro Reborn on wikipedia is at Gael García Bernal's page, but it seems to not be an appropriate target. The cancelled project seems to be pretty non-notable. TartarTorte 17:54, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete for now. It seems to be a cancelled/upcoming film. Information about it is scant online and keeping this redirect may just cause confusion to our readers. --Lenticel (talk) 01:57, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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1 E96[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:39, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear what this is supposed to be referring to, I assume it is supposed to be the density of something, but there's nothing in the article with this density at the moment. Even if something with a density of this value was added to the article I'm not sure of the utility of this redirect, there's nothing in the redirect name to suggest that a searcher would be looking for density. 192.76.8.77 (talk) 16:30, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - It was previously a redirect to Orders of magnitude (density) but that page was blanked and redirected in 2018, so a bot automatically retargeted 1 E96. I assume "1 E96" is E notation, equivalent to 1 untrigintillion (a redirect to Names of large numbers). Some similar redirects, such as 1 E10, exist and target Orders of magnitude (numbers) which would be the best target if this is kept. However, since 1×1096 does not have its own section and is not even mentioned it's probably better to delete this; redirects for random large non-notable numbers seems costly. – Scyrme (talk) 18:55, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Apparently a reference to Planck density, but I don't think it makes sense to retarget, since that's not the only thing to which this order of magnitude could refer. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:50, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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TFYR[edit]

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TFYRM[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 02:09, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This looks like an acronym for the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia but it's not mentioned in the target article, it's unused, it seems a bit contrived (also TFYROM doesn't exist even if FYROM does), and I can't find any real usage in a cursory Google Books search. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 16:21, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Searching for it on Google, it seems that it is indeed such an acronym, and it is used, albeit rarely. It's included in some dictionaries and was apparently used by both the WHO and the UN at least once. Since it doesn't seem to stand for anything else of note, I don't see why the redirect should be removed. --Antondimak (talk) 07:33, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I can't seem to click on that UN link, my browser says it's a security issue. The WHO link I clicked, and it's a document that uses it in list of countries, and at the bottom, this is actually expanded. This indicates to me that this was a weird acronym even in the eyes of the people who wrote that list, so I don't think this is a likely search term and it's not necessary for the encyclopedia to include it. Otherwise it's a slippery slope into including every "The A.. C... " term as "TACRONYM" which we should not encourage just because it's technically possible to google 3 instances of it happening in the real world. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 08:17, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I found a way to get the UN link, and the first instance of this seems to say "The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (TFYRM)" after which "TFYRM" is used later in the document. Clearly the author defined the acronym ad hoc and explained it immediately, so I don't see how this would be anywhere approaching a common search term - anyone who encounters it inside this document will already know what they meant. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 08:24, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Five Nights at Freddy's: The Bite of 1987[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Five Nights at Freddy's (video game)#Plot. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 02:07, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like a title of something but it doesn’t exist. Potentially confusing for people who expected to be redirected to a Five Nights at Freddy’s game. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 12:25, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Retarget to Five Nights at Freddy's (video game)#Plot. If I remember correctly, the name was not coined by Markiplier, but is rather mentioned within the first game by the phone guy. It's entirely likely that someone would search for this, and since the plot summary of the first game explains it and its relevance, that section should be a suitable target. silviaASH (User:BlankpopsiclesilviaASHs4) (inquire within) 15:13, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Fn@f[edit]

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Fair share[edit]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. With no prejudice against creating a disambiguation page with the suggestions that came up in the discussion. Retargeted to the suggested Fair division, as a better target than Justice which had no support. Jay 💬 14:41, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article, and the subject of the target isn't necessarily the meaning for the subject of the redirect anyways. There may be a retargeting option somewhere, but I can't think of any possibly ways to find it at the moment. Steel1943 (talk) 20:21, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Disambiguate for the articles mentioned by Thryduulf and Felix, as this is a commonly used term with lots of potential meanings that already have articles. 193.37.240.164 (talk) 12:04, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Dabify per the IP. It makes sense as something that would be commonly searched for, and the number of articles that describe this concept in different applications makes a dab warranted. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:51, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Fair division as the best overall meaning of the phrase. I am wary about disambiguating, agreeing that the examples Thryduulf lists are partial title matches. -- Tavix (talk) 14:31, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Black Annelid[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:08, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A minor enemy from this game. Not mentioned in article and no reliable sources to warrant a mention. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 12:43, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Not likely to be useful. silviaASH (User:BlankpopsiclesilviaASHs4) (inquire within) 15:17, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. There are also lots of black or dark colored annelids in real life so there's no alternative article to point to. --Lenticel (talk) 02:00, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Shadow the Hedgehog(game)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:08, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This has some WP:RDAB issues as there is no space between the title and the disambiguation. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 12:39, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Why should this exist when the correctly spaced counterpart Shadow the Hedgehog (game) exists, and is currently getting several times more pageviews per year at that? Seed of コスモ (alternative account of Sonic678) 20:09, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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I Am All of Me[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Crush 40#Games. ✗plicit 14:01, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in article and I don’t see any reliable sources that mention it. It could also be a generic term. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 12:32, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Crush 40 § Games - It's the chorus and title of the game's main theme, and it's explicitly listed at the band's article. – Scyrme (talk) 13:28, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Crush 40#Games per Scyme, it's quite plausible that people would search for the game's theme song especially considering the phrase's prominent use in the song itself. silviaASH (User:BlankpopsiclesilviaASHs4) (inquire within) 15:20, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Crush 40#Games, where it is mentioned. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 01:43, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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ShTH[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:08, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Could also refer to the Shadow the Hedgehog character. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 12:27, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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FYROM (Macedonia)[edit]

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Pohjois-Makedonia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 14:09, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:FORRED - I can't find any connection at all between Finnish and North Macedonia, let alone a significant one. Thryduulf (talk) 12:16, 18 October 2022 (UTC)}[reply]

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Questionable research practices[edit]

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Amine (singer)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was reverse redirect. I will add hatnotes both ways w/r/t Aminé. Aminé (singer) can be considered separately if desired. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 05:11, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This page was moved to Amine (French singer) in 2016 as a result of confusing Amine (rapper), the latter of which has an "é". 2600:6C40:5400:5E68:DDF0:14C2:CFC:2D11 (talk) 07:07, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@162 etc.: In ictu oculi said in the 2016 move discussion that "the accent isn't used in http://www.wweek.com/music/2016/07/20/portlands-song-of-the-summer-is-amines-caroline/ and will confuse with the more notable Amine (singer) which should now be at (French singer)." Create redirect Amine (American singer) to Aminé. The reason is because this source refers to the rapper as a singer with no "é". In addition, Aminé (singer) was also created as a redirect. 2600:6C40:5400:5E68:AC2C:D4E3:A6EE:4010 (talk) 01:00, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
WP:COMMONNAME asks us to use the name " most commonly used (...) in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources)". There are always exceptions, and in this case the Willamette Week is one. A look at the list of references cited in the American rapper's article will confirm that "Aminé" and "rapper" are most common. 162 etc. (talk) 15:55, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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If you move Amine (French singer) back to its orignal title, then Danny Boy (rapper) (who's not only a rapper) and Danny Boy (singer) should be moved to Danny Boy O'Connor and Danny Boy Steward respectively, because searching the rapper Danny Boy's name throws up results of singer Danny Boy. 23.84.172.67 (talk) 15:12, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This can be discussed at Talk:Danny_Boy_(rapper)#Requested_move_19_October_2022, but the outcomes of the two discussions should have little bearing on each other. Mdewman6 (talk) 17:22, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I tried to close this but it gave an error moving. Looks like a page mover will have to use delete-redirect to close this. — Clyde!Franklin! 14:05, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Fifty years war[edit]

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Seedrians[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Legoktm (talk) 23:53, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A species from Sonic X. Not mentioned in article and no reliable sources to warrant a mention. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 21:16, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: I don't have a strong opinion about whether to keep this (it's Cosmo's species, one of the main characters from season 3, so it may warrant a mention, then again it may not), but if we do, we'll need to add a mention. I'm also adding the singular form to the discussion. Regards, SONIC678 23:35, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 00:12, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Retarget both to List of Sonic the Hedgehog characters#Cosmo. According to this source, Seedrians is a name for Cosmo's species that the Sonic fandom has invented, as there is no name given for them in the series proper. So these technically fall under WP:SONICCRUFT. That being said, this same very source does show that there's common enough usage of the term that someone might search for it, so I think there's no harm in keeping them, and now that I've merged Cosmo's bio to the character list from the history of List of Sonic X characters, a suitable target exists at which the term is mentioned as a fan name according to that source. As such I think it's appropriate to keep. silviaASH (User:BlankpopsiclesilviaASHs4) (inquire within) 18:07, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The section has been removed from the article due to failing criteria. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 18:11, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Right. Well, never mind. silviaASH (User:BlankpopsiclesilviaASHs4) (inquire within) 18:14, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete both since, as I said in the above reply, the name is made up by the fandom, and there's seemingly no suitable place to give it a mention now that I realize Cosmo is ineligible for inclusion in the character list (something I did not initially realize). silviaASH (User:BlankpopsiclesilviaASHs4) (inquire within) 19:32, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Chiki bar[edit]

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Wind Sprites[edit]

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BS Super Mario Bros 3[edit]

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30th Street[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Disambiguate and retarget.

I don't really have a great idea as to what to do with this redirect. Its target has been changed a number of times. While it seems like 30th Street (San Diego) is more precise, it's a far less popular article than 30th Street Station, which is rather commonly referred to as "30th Street". I don't think deletion is the answer, but I would like to hear other editors opinions as to keep it where it is, retarget to 30th Street Station or do something else entirely? TartarTorte 03:20, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Disambiguate No clear primary topic. We have a redirect page for 30th Street in D.C. and a disambiguation page for stations titled 30th Street. Seems plausible that a reader could be looking for any of these along with the current topic. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 04:13, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    30th Street in NYC also seems like it would be a plausibly notable topic. It's a terminus of the Lincoln Tunnel and also the site of Penn Station. I'll probably add an entry to List of numbered streets in Manhattan. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:12, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    checkY Entry added Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 23:27, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: There's also Thirtieth Street, which I'll be adding here. I don't have a strong opinion about 30th Street, but wherever that redirects, this should too (and if it's disambiguated, this one should be redirected to the disambiguation page). Regards, SONIC678 04:42, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disambig per above. If there are only a couple of notable 30th streets then a combined dab with the station would work (i.e. move 30th Street station (disambiguation) to 30th Street and disambiguate both streets and stations there) otherwise separate dabs that link to each other in see alsos is better. Thryduulf (talk) 09:38, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I like merging all into 30th Street. I think that it will likely be a small enough page not to cause navigational issues and will require one fewer click for those trying to get to a 30th Street Station who typed in 30th Street. TartarTorte 12:47, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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🧑🏾‍🍳[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. signed, Rosguill talk 21:33, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible search term. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 05:02, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment User:Rosedaler created four or five similar emoji redirects that you can find in the second page of their Contributions. They should probably all be bundled together and considered. Liz Read! Talk! 07:12, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:EMOJI. Clear depiction of a cook, so not implausible as the nom suggests. I personally see no reason why deletion would be warranted. CycloneYoris talk! 08:58, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Noticed this after replying to Liz' query on my talkpage about this redirect. Guess I'll just repurpose my reply there as a rationale for this !vote: keep unless the nominator can explain how this differs from the existing precedent. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 09:33, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per CycloneYoris. Emojis with a clear target are good redirects and should be blue links. Thryduulf (talk) 11:49, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Target is not a WP:SURPRISE and with emoji being ever more popular, I think searching for an emoji isn't that unlikely. As mentioned above by others WP:EMOJI covers this well. TartarTorte 11:55, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Per WP:EMOJI Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 13:04, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To all those saying keep, why y'all we prefer Cook (profession) over Chef? — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 13:37, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Because it's broader. A chef is a type of professional cook. Thryduulf (talk) 13:49, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Kent Dominic: But this redirect already targets the Cook (profession) article. The DAB page is completely separate and has nothing to do with this redirect, so I don't understand why you are mentioning it. CycloneYoris talk! 21:37, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@CycloneYoris: It seems I'm the one who instigated this thread. My intitial concern in fact related partially to the DAB page. Specifically, it doesn't include an entry for the Cook (profession) article, but I think it should. Also, the Cook (profession) article relates primarily to professional cooks, not to the profession itself. Finally, typing an incomplete "Cook (" in the search window brings up only Cook (profession) but I think it should also bring up Cook (professional) to help readers decide which article they want. Kent Dominic·(talk) 21:56, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Shine Get![edit]

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Malika Haqq[edit]

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 06:58, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Kardashians page contains just a single sentence about her, and it's hard to find the sentence. Someone who is searching for information about the person won't really find any helpful information by being redirected there. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 03:07, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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List of characters from Sonic X[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Sonic the Hedgehog characters#Characters in other media. There appears to be a rough consensus that this target is suitable following edits to content at that target. signed, Rosguill talk 21:31, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is no longer a characters section in the article as such the R from merge tag is no longer accurate. This redirect is confusing for anyone who types this in and expects a list of Sonic X characters. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 23:41, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adding the list back into the article would probably be WP:LISTCRUFT or WP:FANCRUFT. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 23:43, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete as no target really exists. Jontesta (talk) 23:28, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The Conflict in Palestine[edit]

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Slavomacedonia[edit]

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Beehive home[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Beehive house. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:01, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The word "home" is not mentioned in the target article. The target article is alternatively called a "beehive hut", but a separate article Beehive house exists; the subject of Beehive house can also be used as a home, but the word "home" isn't mentioned in that article either. Steel1943 (talk) 18:28, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak retarget to Beehive house as the closest synonym for the redirect. I'm not sure if it's that needed though. --Lenticel (talk) 02:02, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Beehive house, which is the broader article covering various beehive-shaped residences that could plausibly be called "beehive homes". The connection between "house" and "home" is obvious; no-one would be confused if redirected there. The "Occurrences" section states Beehive houses are some of the oldest known structures in Ireland and Scotland, which sounds like it could be a reference to Clochán although the dates don't match up. The 2000 BC date given at Beehive house is unreferenced whereas Clochán has a reference, so it could be that Beehive house is referring to Clochán but providing false information about the antiquity of the structures. Alternatively, the 2000 BC year could be for Scotland, not Ireland, where the structures might be older. Regardless, Beehive house also links to Clochán under "See also", so anyone looking for them is still likely to find them if sent to Beehive house. – Scyrme (talk) 21:48, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Il Piantissimo[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of crossovers in video games#Super Mario Sunshine , where I created a anchor. (non-admin closure) Clyde!Franklin! 01:16, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A minor character in which you must race in order to get Shine Sprites. Not mentioned in article though it is mentioned in List of crossovers in video games but you have to scroll really far down in order to see the mention. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 14:39, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The Parker House[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Parker House. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 00:59, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There exists a disambiguation page at Parker House, which appears to be a better target for this redirect. I don't see a reason why adding a definite article in front of "Parker House" would create a WP:PTOPIC. As such, I propose that this redirect be retargeted to Parker House. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 00:28, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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