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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 13, 2021.

Origin of the name " Windy City"

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 02:47, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely misspelling (a space after a quote). Elli (talk | contribs) 20:37, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'd guess something linked to it in the past but doesn't seem to now. Support deletion. - Cheers, Burwellian (Talk) 20:44, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Bartesian

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 02:48, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bartesian appears to be the name of a cocktail-making machine, but it's not discussed at all at the target. Delete unless a duly-sourced mention can be added at the target. signed, Rosguill talk 17:07, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as far as I've been able to find, it's mentioned exactly once on Wikipedia - at Fundica.com#2017. The mention there is literally just the name and that they won something (I'm not sure what) at the Waterloo roadshow in 2017. The list is not explicitly sourced (it may be sourced in the previous section, I've not checked) and I'm not convinced it's DUE, but even without that it wouldn't be a useful target for a redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 23:46, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Hide (pet)

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 19:22, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No mention at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 16:58, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Creator's comment: Commonly used term...
  • "All Living Things® Tiny Tales™ Small Pet Hide | small pet Tunnels & Hideouts".
  • "Small pet hide". Etsy. 2021-06-11. Retrieved 2021-06-13.
  • "Amazon.com : Small Animal Hides". Amazon.com. Retrieved 2021-06-13.
...I just can't find any examples other than sales websites. Invasive Spices (talk) 17:24, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Ferrocenium

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Ferrocene#Redox chemistry – the ferrocenium ion. signed, Rosguill talk 20:05, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We also have Ferrocenium hexafluorophosphate, but only the main Ferrocene article discusses the ion itself. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 16:55, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think we can redirect it to Ferrocene#Redox_chemistry_–_the_ferrocenium_ion. What do you think? --Rifleman 82 (talk) 17:17, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Superman and (TV Series)

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The result of the discussion was keep most.

This redirect leads to Supergirl (TV series) but was meant for Superman & Lois, but regardless, a better redirect is found at Superman and Lois. Gonnym (talk) 12:10, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So? This isn't a formal "CSD" discussion – but the basis for my vote on that is correct: that is an completely implausible typo/misnomer (both a missing word and incorrect capitalization on the disambiguation) and that redirect should be deleted on that basis. --IJBall (contribstalk) 20:06, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
-- Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 18:39, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In fact, it's not necessary standard practice to delete redirects when moving from Draft to Mainspace – those redirects are kept as often as not.
But I have no objection to your Superman and Lois redirect suggestion – that seems right, and the article has a hatnote to the TV series. --IJBall (contribstalk) 20:06, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's good to know, thanks. In this instance I still favour deletion: the drafts weren't necessarily created under titles referring to the articles where they eventually ended up, so besides not really being all that useful, they're also confusing. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:07, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@PEIsquirrel and IJBall: because I understand this to be standard practice when promoting articles that is almost exactly backwards, in accordance with WP:RDRAFT such redirects are invariable retained. Regards, 31.41.45.190 (talk) 01:27, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Here is my input:
Delete Superman and (TV Series) as incorrect / improbable title and housekeeping
Delete Superman & Lois (TV Series) as housekeeping capitalization of Series
Delete Draft:Superman and Lois (TV Series) as housekeeping capitalization of Series
Boldly fix redirects to Supergirl to point to Superman & Lois
The main article seems to carry the bulk of the edits in 2019 and 2020. If at that time the article was still in draft, then consider retaining the Draft:Superman and Lois and Draft:Superman & Lois AngusW🐶🐶F (barksniff) 02:05, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Regards, 31.41.45.190 (talk) 02:22, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I don't usually do this, but I'm going to both relist and delete the two from this batch for which I see clear consensus to delete (Superman and (TV Series) and Draft:Superman and Lois (TV Series)). Further comments after the relist...
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 15:38, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Relisting comments that include pings:
  • Only one of the remaining redirects points to Supergirl (TV series). I assume there's no reason for that to be the case, whether there's consensus to retarget to Superman & Lois or to delete. I recommend invoking WP:NCRET if appropriate for it. Pinging keep voters IJBall and Favre1fan93—I'm making the assumption that no one actually wants these pointing to Supergirl, but I could be wrong on that.
  • Ivanvector's squirrel: Your third revised bullet-point vote seems to be recommending a double redirect; I assume you mean Superman & Lois.
This is indeed a WP:TRAINWRECK, but since it hadn't been relisted yet, I thought I could try to steer it back onto rails, and drop dead weight in the process. --BDD (talk) 15:45, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
BDD, you're right, thanks for pointing out that error. I've revised. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 12:05, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retain Superman and Lois (while redirecting Superman & Lois to it). English is confusing enough without adding Roman bastardized symbols to the mix. Whil it is true that some folk will come here searching for the article using the ampersand, the vast majority will not. - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack Sebastian (talkcontribs) 03:27, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Taylor Swift Discography

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Taylor Swift#Discography. (non-admin closure) Adumbrativus (talk) 05:53, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Either retarget this to the target of Taylor Swift discography (Taylor Swift#Discography) or vice versa. Sun8908Talk 15:23, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Billy Bob Thompson

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 02:51, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as "Billy Bob Thompson" is only briefly mentioned in the infobox of the target. "Billy Bob Thompson" might be notable enough for an article, but this redirect makes no sense. A dozen or so articles link to this redirect. 108.56.139.120 (talk) 14:11, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Billy Bob Thompson is only briefly mentioned in the Greninja article. You also learn nothing about Thompson from the Greninja article (besides, I guess, that he voiced Greninja) so it's not a helpful redirect. Tfkalk (talk) 15:48, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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T:TL

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 11:58, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A recently created template of a format that has been effectively deprecated since 2014. The problem with these redirects is that they are in mainspace (so interfere with reader searches), and – unlike regular template redirects – can't easily be used in transclusions. – Uanfala (talk) 11:45, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per Uanfala. There is no reason at all to create new redirects in this style. Gonnym (talk) 11:57, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: You're right. The category Redirects to template namespace only contains around 10 entries, most of which were created a long time ago as far as I can tell. I wasn't aware of the consensus at the RFC at the time, because I hadn't done proper research before I created the redirect. I'll try to avoid making similar mistakes in the future. Opal|zukor(discuss) 13:00, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • There are around 70 existing redirects of this format (there are 75 redirects with the T: prefix [1], but some of them point to articles). Some of them probably wouldn't survive if nominated at RfD, but the majority are established, grandfathered redirects to pages that only happen to reside in template space but are actually more akin to project pages (esp. the DYK-related ones). But yeah, this is a closed class of redirects and it's not meant to grow – but the rule to this effect is pretty obscure and not many people are aware of it (I, for example, had been here for years before I found out about it). – Uanfala (talk) 14:27, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Shortcut redirects are only appropriate to templates where people commonly view the template itself rather than a transclusion/substitution (e.g. T:ACOT). This template is not one of those. Thryduulf (talk) 00:01, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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"Christopher Desloges"

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 11:59, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Per recent consensus at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 3. The page was moved from this title seven minutes after creation and is only impeding full-mention search. ~~~~
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11:19, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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"Cheryl Savageau"

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 11:59, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Per recent consensus at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 3. The page was moved from this title 13 minutes after creation and is only impeding full-mention search. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
11:18, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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"Carla Denyer"

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 11:59, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Per recent consensus at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 3. The page was moved from this title three minutes after creation and is only impeding full-mention search. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
11:17, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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"Battler Britton"

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:00, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Per recent consensus at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 3. The page was moved from this title within a minute after creation and is only impeding full-mention search. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
11:16, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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"Antoni Milina"

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:00, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Per recent consensus at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 3. The page was moved from this title within a minute after creation and is only impeding full-mention search. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
11:15, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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"Angel Nafis"

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:00, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Per recent consensus at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 3. The page was moved from this title a minute after creation and is only impeding full-mention search. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
11:10, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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"Amanda Cassatt"

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:00, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Per recent consensus at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 3. The page was moved from this title four minutes after creation and is only impeding full-mention search. ~~~~
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11:07, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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"Aaron Heffernan"

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:01, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Per recent consensus at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 3. The page was moved from this title within 30 seconds after creation and is only impeding full-mention search. ~~~~
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11:06, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Oyata

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The result of the discussion was retarget the first to Ryū-te, the second to Adachi, Tokyo#Districts and neighborhoods. plicit 12:05, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose retarget of first redirect to Ryū-te. Propose deletion of second redirect. This martial artist, who founded Ryū-te, is not a location in Tokyo. 122.60.46.122 (talk) 09:16, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Compassionate727 (T·C) 15:33, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:42, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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1989 (Taylor's Version)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 20#1989 (Taylor's Version)

Great Great East Japan Earthquake

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 11:57, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot see how this would be plausible as a search term. The only way it makes sense to me is if there was already a "Great East Japan Earthquake" and the 2011 event topped it. Apparently this was a mistake made by a minor newpaper in Oakland (Michigan, not California). The link used in the edit summary does not work for me and I found zero external uses of the phrase when Googling. -- Tavix (talk) 01:44, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment: I wanted to re-read the article but found it was not archived, not on the wayback machine nor on archive.today. That's why it's important to back up the sources one uses :( WhisperToMe (talk) 02:21, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Here it is. I don't see the mistake there though. Why was the redirect created in the first place when term was known to be a mistake by a minor newspaper? https://www.theoaklandpress.com/news/japanese-consulate-to-mark-anniversary-of-2011-quake-thank-supporters/article_df9aebf3-c584-53fe-9862-d5f3ccba0eeb.html - Jay (Talk) 05:57, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Jay: I created such redirects because that if this publication made this mistake, an ordinary editor/user plausibly could as well WhisperToMe (talk) 14:44, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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2011 JAPAN TSUNAMI AND QUAKE.

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 11:56, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete due to the combination of all caps + a period to an article not stylized that way. -- Tavix (talk) 01:37, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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