Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 January 28

January 28

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 28, 2020.

Move fast and break things (motto)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 February 5#Move fast and break things (motto)

Yeeting

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 20:16, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeeting → Norma Yeeting (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I think the reason Norma Yeeting gets vandalized so much is because IP vandals search 'yeet' in the search box and get redirected there from this. I propose this redirect should be deleted because it indirectly promotes vandalism on the target article. Poydoo (talk) 20:29, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It's a valid {{R from surname}}. If Norma Yeeting is suffering vandalism, it should be protected in some other way than by deleting an everyday type of redirect which has 20,000+ instances. An evidenced request at WP:RFPP for WP:PEND protection would be a better solution. Narky Blert (talk) 21:07, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a standard {{R from surname}} with nothing else on Wikipedia this could refer to. I see vandalism has been a consistent problem, so have applied indefinite semi-protection to the target which should largely resolve that problem moving forward. -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:09, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Snap! Narky Blert (talk) 21:12, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above, but we should probably let this play out a week in case another (or a couple) Yeeting(s) emerges as potential targets, which is why I didn't add WP:SNOW to my rationale. Doug Mehus T·C 23:45, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep; we shouldn't surrender a perfectly valid redirect just because it causes minor vandalism. J 947 ^{^{^(c)}}, at 00:56, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It's the Yeet one that keeps getting recreated as vandalism and having to be salted. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:36, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know much about Malaysian names, but could Yeet be a surname or given name redirect to Koe Yeet? -- Tavix ^(talk) 02:39, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Not really the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC compared to the internet slang though. J 947 ^{^{^(c)}}, at 03:35, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The internet slang has no discussion on Wikipedia AFAICT, so it cannot be the primary topic at this time. -- Tavix ^(talk) 12:17, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The internet slang is available on Wiktionary wikt:yeeting, so a possibility is {{wiktionary redirect|yeeting}} -- 67.70.33.184 (talk) 06:08, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Narky. Hog Farm (talk) 03:49, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Why not turn it into a {{surname}} article? There's an biologist named B. Yeeting that's an author of many references used on Wikipedia. And Buraieta Yeeting Kiribati track athlete gold medalist (who holds a Games record and national record). (there's also a published medical researcher S. Yeeting) If it is turned into a surname article, that could be protected instead of the biographical article. There's also several people named "Yee-ting", so could be disambiguation page linking the surnamed people and those with the given name "Yee-Ting". (there's also a published biochemical researcher Yeeting Esther Chong) -- 67.70.33.184 (talk) 07:40, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Norma is the only Yeeting that has an article, so it would be inappropriate to create a surname index at this time. Such article would fail WP:NNAME. -- Tavix ^(talk) 10:48, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Socialist confederalism

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 February 5#Socialist confederalism

Wuhan seafood market pneumonia

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was retarget to 2019–20 Wuhan coronavirus outbreak. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 19:45, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wuhan seafood market pneumonia → Novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Retarget to 2019–20 Wuhan coronavirus outbreak -- This title implies it is about the Wuhan incident, the disease, and its occurrence, which is primarily covered in the outbreak article. The complementary redirect Wuhan seafood market pneumonia virus is the one that should point to the virus article, which it does. -- 67.70.33.184 (talk) 17:51, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget as per nom. Bondegezou (talk) 22:39, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Also, was created recently by an editor avoiding a sock block. If the term is not in use, deletion would be all right. Dekimasuよ! 06:15, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the info. Yet we judge pages on their own value ;) Yug (talk) 16:37, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Right, but technically this is eligible for WP:CSD#G5. Dekimasuよ! 15:10, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to 2019–20 Wuhan coronavirus outbreak. Do we really need a vote for that ?? Yug (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I’m assuming the disease will always exist, even after this current outbreak. Should we direct Ebola hemorrhagic fever to Kivu Ebola epidemic? --Nessie (📥) 03:09, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- The target isn't a disease article, it is a virus article. And do you expect that "Wuhan seafood market pneumonia" will be used for any future disease incidences? It isn't even being used now, it's already fallen out of use, so would only ever be associated with this particular outbreak. It specifically is about the disease as it was when it was first recognized, at the beginning of the outbreak, not as it is now, where transmission outside of the Wuhan seafood market occurs, and people are not calling the people suffering from it having caught it Germany or elsewhere as having Wuhan seafood market pneumonia. "Ebola hemorrhagic fever" does not point to a virus article (of which, we do have, Ebolavirus and Ebola Zaire), so isn't an analogous situation, it points to a disease article (Ebola virus disease). Also, multiple outbreaks have happened in and around the Ebola River, so also not analogous. -- 67.70.33.184 (talk) 07:34, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to 2019–20 Wuhan coronavirus outbreak given the lack of appetite for deletion. Dekimasuよ! 04:50, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Dr. Janet Craig

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The result of the discussion was keep. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 19:44, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Janet Craig → Petticoat Junction (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Craig is actually a historic figure in the history of television - apparently only the ~~2nd~~ 3rd (actually) woman doctor character to appear on American television - "Dr. Maggie Graham"(Bettye Ackerman) on Ben Casey being the ~~first~~ 2nd (See my mistake post below.). Also, the article's contribution history/attribution has basically been erased from public view. Needs to be discussed. Shearonink (talk) 16:00, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I redirected the Dr. Craig article to PJ because since its 2012 creation, it has been all in-universe cruft with primary sourcing (as was the case with other series characters who somehow got separate entries), and had a grand total of 20 edits. A link was recently provided on the PJ talk page by Shearonink to a NY Times article about female TV doctors, but it made no mention of Dr. Craig. While she may have been noteworthy at the time of her debut, the key word here is "apparently" as there is no independent third-party coverage noting her standing in television history, and therefore such a claim is purely speculatory. Searches turned up one MeTV article but it's mostly opinion-based and nowhere near enough. sixtynine ^{• whaddya want? •} 17:24, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake. Looks like Craig was the 3rd. First was in 1952-53 in the (very) early TV soap City Hospital/Kate Morrow (Ann Burr). Then was Dr. Maggie Graham(Bettye Ackerman) Ben Casey(1961-66) and then was Dr. Janet Craig(1968-70), all according to June Cleaver Was a Feminist!: Reconsidering the Female Characters of Early Television by Cary O'Dell (McFarland, 2013). Shearonink (talk) 18:38, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also this MeTV article about June Lockhart as Dr. Janet Craig "The first female doctor on TV was an outlier, Dr. Kate Morrow (Ann Burr) on the series City Hospital in 1952–53. It would be a decade before another recurring female doctor character came along, anesthesiologist Dr. Maggie Graham (Bettye Ackerman) on Ben Casey (1961–66). Lockhart's Dr. Craig was one of the few female medical professionals in a major television role." Shearonink (talk) 00:09, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's definitely worthy of a mention in June Lockhart, because she played the character. However, it still doesn't establish enough notability to warrant an individual character article. sixtynine ^{• whaddya want? •} 01:43, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thx. If content from the Dr. Janet Craig article is merged into the Petticoat Junction article and/or into the June Lockhart article then there should be merged-from notification/templates on whatever talkpages. Shearonink (talk) 02:36, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and tag {{R from fictional character}} June Lockhart has star billing in season 7. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:43, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and tag per AngusWOOF; plenty in the target about her. Also categorise as Category:Television characters introduced in 1968. Narky Blert (talk) 12:32, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Eurosong ´06

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:25, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Eurosong ´06 → Belgium in the Eurovision Song Contest 2006 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete redirect with erroneous ´ character. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:32, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Grk1011 (talk) 17:41, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete; not harmful but we may as well delete it given that it is here. J 947 ^{^{^(c)}}, at 01:00, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Eurosong 2016

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:24, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Eurosong 2016 → Eurovision Song Contest 2016 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Eurosong 2004 → Eurovision Song Contest 2004 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

"Eurosong" is not mentioned in the text of either article. "Eurosong 2016" is ambiguous with Eurosong (Belgium)#Eurosong (2012–2014, 2016), and "Eurosong 2004" is ambiguous with Eurosong (Belgium)#Eurosong (2004–2006). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:03, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not a typical search term for the contest. Grk1011 (talk) 17:41, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Eurosong '93 - Kvalifikacija za Millstreet

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:23, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Eurosong '93 - Kvalifikacija za Millstreet → Kvalifikacija za Millstreet (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

"Eurosong" is not mentioned in the target article. "Eurosong '93" is ambiguous with Eurosong (Belgium)#Eurosong (1993, 1995). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:01, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not a typical search term for the contest. Too elaborate. Grk1011 (talk) 17:41, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Interstate 13 in California

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 February 4#Interstate 13 in California