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June 18[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 18, 2018.

Untitled Joe Paterno film[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. WRT Crowhurst, pageviews were minimal since being moved (in addition to consensus to delete). ~ Amory (u • t • c) 00:47, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects are no longer needed as all of these projects now have titles 74.89.41.77 (talk) 22:43, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • I wasn’t sure why I created this redirect when it already had been deleted once in the past. Thank you for speedily deleting it. Interqwark talk contribs 03:58, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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ஜே.கே.கே.நடராஜா கல்வி நிறுவனங்கள்[edit]

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. PamD is reminded about WP:BEFORE. Thryduulf (talk) 22:59, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not appropriate for English Wikipedia - and not mentioned in target article. PamD 21:58, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. If this redirect's title is the name of the target subject in the language native to the geographic region which the subject of the target article is located, then this redirect should be kept. Steel1943 (talk) 23:06, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Google translate reports that the redirect is in Tamil. The target article states the location of the institutions as Tamil Nadu. Our article on the state notes that Tamil is the official language of Tamil Nadu. The Tamil Wikipedia article at this exact title is (based on Google translate) is about this same subject, so it's certainly a native name and ticks all the WP:FORRED boxes. Thryduulf (talk) 00:02, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdraw per the two posts above: redirect appears to be justified. PamD 22:09, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Sabeism[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 June 26#Sabeism

National Maritime Day.[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 00:46, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No need for a redirect ending in a full stop. National Maritime Day, without full stop, has been a redirect since 2010. PamD 21:32, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Metal pair[edit]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 02:10, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Term not found in target article: no indication that this is a useful redirect. If the term should be in the article, please add it with a source. PamD 21:24, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. General searches show pairs of metal lamps. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:08, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:R#KEEP #3 and #5: The redirect aids searches, as not everyone knows the proper term "thermocouple" (which is completely non-obvious to non-techies), but may remember the effect. Without the redirect, it is quite difficult to find the article about the effect without knowing the proper term already.
Also, I don't see the reasons for why we are allowed to delete a redirect applying per WP:R#DELETE.
--Matthiaspaul (talk) 18:15, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disambiguate my first thought when seeing this redirect was bimetallic strip, for which it is also a useful search term for someone who doesn't know the name. Thryduulf (talk) 23:02, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, good example. Disambiguation would be fine with me. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 08:12, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Electrical splice[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 June 29#Electrical splice

Line splice[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 June 29#Line splice

Greater Virginia[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 June 27#Greater Virginia

2018 FINA Swimming World Cup[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 June 30#2018 FINA Swimming World Cup

Exceptional curve[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 June 27#Exceptional curve

Kalyptic[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Keep. In the absence of any further comments responding to the points made in favour of this redirect I see this as a consensus for keeping. Thryduulf (talk) 18:28, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find any reference to this in the target article, nor can I find any credible sources showing a connection of even the reality of this term. Onel5969 TT me 22:50, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The term kalyptic is mentioned in the |history section of Regality theory. The entry on Kalyptic was originally a short notice saying that it is the same as kungic with a reference to Regality theory. This was marked for deletion because it was too short, hence I changed it to a redirection. Do you think it is better to have a short notice than a redirection? Agnerf (talk) 07:20, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: term is defined in target article, no other articles uses the term. – Uanfala (talk) 13:56, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 17:09, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Duchess of Success[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Great idea Thryduulf! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 21:19, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible typo/autocorrect failure. See Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2018_May_29#Duke_of_Success PamD 16:58, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Duke and Duchess of Success[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 21:19, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible typo. PamD 16:25, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hadamard-Gutzwiller model[edit]

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. -- Tavix (talk) 21:28, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of this term at the target page, nor any mention of Gutzwiller at all - presumably Martin Gutzwiller. No evidence that this is a useful redirect. (Neither the model, nor Hadamard, gets a meniton on Gutzwiller's page either). PamD 16:22, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why would you try to delete this redirect before doing a Google search to determine if the name is correct? The very first search result for "Hadamard-Gutzwiller model" is a paper published in Physical Review Letters which uses that exact phrase and simultaneously cites Hadamard's 1898 paper and Gutzwiller's 1980, 1985, and 1986 papers on the same model: https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.61.483 . Academics won't want to contribute to Wikipedia if you are eager to delete their contributions but unwilling to do even a modicum of effort to build on them. Jess_Riedel (talk) 17:26, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Jess Riedel: A redirect is supposed to lead the reader to an article where they will find something on the topic they seek. There is no mention of the Hadamard-Gutzwiller model at Hadamard's dynamical system, and it is not my job to do a literature search and upgrade that article. If you have the knowledge and the sources, please add something sourced and informative about the H-G model to that article and I'll be happy that we keep this redirect. But as it stands, it doesn't help the reader. I hope academics will understand this. It might also be appropriate to add some mention of the model to Gutzwiller's article, where it isn't currently mentioned either. You can check my editing record to see whether you really believe that I am eager to delete other editors' contributions but "unwilling to do even a modicum of effort to build on them": I spend a lot of time salvaging other editors' misguided / lazy / careless / ignorant contributions, and that's verging onto a personal attack. PamD 20:50, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Jess Riedel: Ah, checking further in my watch list I see you have now added a splendid sourced mention of the model to the article, so that the redirect is perfectly correct. That wasn't so difficult - for you, with the knowledge and the sources. Next time please don't react so rudely to an editor who is, in effect, pointing out the gap you left in your own earlier edits by leading the reader to an article which didn't mention the topic they were looking for. All is now well. Thanks. PamD 20:59, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdraw: term has now been added to target page, so no problem with the redirect. PamD 20:59, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Mao Zedong Holocaust[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 June 27#Mao Zedong Holocaust

Mao holocaust[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 21:18, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Holocaust" not used in target page (one of many redirects created by now-blocked editor with same target) PamD 16:01, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Mao Mass Murderer[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 21:18, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not a useful redirect (within a swathe of more-or-less useful-looking redirects created by same editor with same target). Possibly a typo for "Murder"? PamD 15:59, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Mao Mass killings[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 21:18, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No need for a redirect from this eccentric capitalisation. PamD 15:54, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Jeongwol[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 21:18, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Term not found in target page; nothing to indicate that this is a useful redirect. PamD 15:52, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep; looks like a transliteration of Korean 정월 (which is mentioned in the kowiki article as an alternate name). The Chinese calendar is also used in Korea, so this could be a valid search term. Jc86035 (talk) 16:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jc86035: That seems a rather distant connection: if you think it's a useful search term could you please add it to the article? If it's given as an alternative name in kowiki, perhaps it should be given as an alternative name here too, with the transliteration? PamD 21:03, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @PamD: I think it could be shown in {{Infobox Chinese}} or a similar template; there are transliterations at wikt:ko:정월 (Korean) and wikt:en:正月 (Chinese; Japanese). Would adding this template be fine or does the text have to be more prominent? Jc86035 (talk) 06:21, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not sure whether the best solution is to add content at the existing target, or to retarget to Korean calendar#Months where it is mentioned (as jeong-wol). In any case it's a useful redirect for a real term and should not be deleted. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 12:52, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdraw per the above postings - appears to be a potentially useful term even if it does not appear explicitly in the article. PamD 22:10, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Black supremacist terrorism in the United States[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Section was there, but removed a few weeks ago as entirely unsourced. If it returns and is sourced, we can revisit this ~ Amory (u • t • c) 21:17, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects to a section of an article that doesn't exist because no reliable sources refer to the alleged phenomenon. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 12:42, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. The Black supremacy article deals (almost) entirely with the United States, but it does not mention terrorism nor does it discuss any acts that could reasonably be described as such so someone using this search term would not be helped by that target either. If we had an article that stated that there is no evidence of black supremacist terrorism and/or black supremacist terrorist organisations in the United States that would make a good target, but as far as I've been able to find we do not have such (I haven't investigated whether it would be possible to reliably source such a statement). Thryduulf (talk) 16:41, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as per nom. Such an article or section doesn't exist.Senegambianamestudy (talk) 17:40, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Ebdon[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 June 28#Ebdon

Tian\anmen West Station[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 21:15, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible title; leftover from a page move. Jc86035 (talk) 07:41, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. This title looks like a mistake, and the article was only here for a day. Thryduulf (talk) 09:04, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom as implausible typo and housekeeping from move. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:15, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • As ' and \ are on the same key on some keyboards, it is a plausible typo but not one that is useful as a redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 10:11, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Eminence (DJ)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 June 27#Eminence (DJ)

Super Smash Bros. Universe[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 21:15, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Too old for WP:CSD#R3. The title of this redirect refers to a video game that does not seem to exist. A Google search for the title finds nothing in the way of reliable sources. Instead, I did find fan speculation on forums, a description of a fan-created game on Wikia, and apparently some kind of leak that indicated this might be the title of the game that eventually became Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. Since there is nothing official here, I think this redirects creates more confusion than benefit if it exists (misleading readers into thinking an actual game exists with this name). The word "universe" is also not currently mentioned at all in its target article. Mz7 (talk) 00:05, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • No opinion. bd2412 T 00:50, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • So why comment? ~ Dissident93 (talk) 02:30, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Dissident93: BD2412 is the creator of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 19:24, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        • Still, either you support, oppose, or have a comment discussing something related to the discussion. I wasn't trying to be rude, but just saying "no opinion" isn't helpful. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 22:35, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
          • Right, and I was only pointing out the possible reason why BD2412 even stated anything. Steel1943 (talk) 22:37, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
            • I received a talk page notice of this discussion, which I presume means that my opinion was being requested. I have no opinion, nor do I even have any recollection of the circumstances that led to the creation of this redirect. My lack of opinion also imports a lack of objection in the event that this is deleted. bd2412 T 17:45, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, fan speculation from 2014 that should have been deleted right then and there. It shouldn't redirect to Ultimate because Universe is not a misspelling of it, nor is it mentioned on the page. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 02:30, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Dissident93 and re-create as Super Smash Bros. universe (since this term could plausibly refer to the franchise, but is confusing with "universe" capitalized). Jc86035 (talk) 07:47, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This thought did cross my mind, but I decided this kind of redirect probably isn't worth it because the word "universe" isn't mentioned at all in the target article. As I understand it, the series isn't really known for having a fictional universe. Mz7 (talk) 05:37, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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