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October 22[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 22, 2016.

Gertrud Schlesinger[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Hugo von Hofmannsthal#Personal life. JohnCD (talk) 18:49, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We do not have an article on this person, and the only article that links to the redirect is the exact same short article that is the target so anyone following the link is not helped at all. I think a redlink here is the best thing. Thryduulf (talk) 23:52, 22 October 2016 (UTC)}[reply]

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Good cake[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 18:38, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible search term. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 22:55, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Empalo[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:56, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No affinity for Spanish. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 22:50, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Peanut butter swirl[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:55, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Term is not mentioned in target. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 22:45, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete – At best, this misleads readers to think that there is an article on the subject when they type "Peanut butter swirl" into the search bar and something pops up. There is no practical use for this redirect. Dustin (talk) 19:21, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I believe that this specific type of ice cream is probably on 'List of ice cream flavors' somewhere, although I don't see it at the moment. It may need to be added there. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:51, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Apple pen[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. While there isn't a strong consensus for deletion, the discussion below has established that this phrase may colloquially refer to Apple Pencil, Pen-Pineapple-Apple-Pen, and possibly other things, but isn't a commonly accepted alternative name of any of them. Deryck C. 10:42, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think Apple Pencil is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC here. SSTflyer 12:46, 13 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you think that? 13:44, 13 October 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimonTrew (talk • contribs)
  • RedirectDelete per nom. No indication from the article that PPAP is shortened to Apple pen. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:36, 13 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to see some evidence of why Apple Pencil is the primary topic, e.g. um... WP:RS? I know I am in a minority here, but in my view because redirects live in reader space they are under the same rules as WP:ARTICLETITLE. I know that is a minority view and of course we have categories specifically for when redirects are useful but don't meet that standard (typos, other languages, etc etc ad nauseam). Those are fine. This does' masquerade as an article title, i.e. it meets WP:ARTICLETITLE, so I think it should also meet the standards of having an RS that says this is the primary topic, none has yet been presented, and I doubt will. Just because redirects are cheap does not mean they are free. They should not be created willy-nilly. (They are not free, cos they end up at RfD costing ediors' time.) There is a search engine, after all. Si Trew (talk) 11:11, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Changing my vote. As the song is really short, phrases like "I have a pen" "apple pen" "pineapple pen" are going to be proposed, and these would fall under WP:NOTLYRICS. On the flip side, it would be okay to add PPAP (song). AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:31, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The article for the song has been kept. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:59, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and hatnote since the proposed target is not a pen, but a pencil, unless there's instances where it's been called an "Apple Pen". If there is, it could be retargeted and hatnoted to this song. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:06, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • An Apple Pencil contains neither a pigment core or ink, so though the official name is a pencil, it could as reasonably be characterized as a pen. A better name for the product would have been the "Apple Stylus" in my humble opinion.— Godsy (TALKCONT) 17:35, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Apple Pencil. I feel that it's more reasonable for someone to be looking for a pen-like tool made by Apple over a partial title for this song. From a cursory search, I've noticed the mistake being made in a couple reviews for the product, for example. -- Tavix (talk) 14:49, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 22:07, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, most people will be looking for PPAP (Pen-Pineapple-Apple-Pen). 69.50.70.9 (talk) 22:54, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete I have no overly strong opinion on this one, but since I don't see any consensus, I think its better to let search results to handle this. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 23:37, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Champion. I could see this being a search term for the song or either Apple product, but it doesn't seem super likely for any of them, and I don't like the idea of a dab where every entry is a misnomer. --BDD (talk) 21:23, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Secretary of State for International Trade/short edits[edit]

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted by Anthony Appleyard. -- Tavix (talk) 22:30, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsensical subpage left over from a complicated history-manipulating operation (I'm not sure whether it was a history merge, history split, or both) performed by Anthony Appleyard Pppery 19:54, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Lizzie Woods trade unionist[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 18:29, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody is ever going to search for this, link to this, catalogue this or do anything else to this; looking at the history it rarely gets more than zero views per day and only once in recorded history got as many as two hits in a day (presumably both search engine crawlers). The only reason I haven't unilaterally deleted this under WP:R3 is that it's somehow lasted for six years so doesn't count as "recently created".  ‑ Iridescent 16:08, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - Being a trade unionist isn't a title such as 'Ph.D' or something like that. And, even if it was, this redirect is still clunky and not really helpful. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 19:55, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – If this redirect had been in the form "Lizzie Woods (trade unionist)" and there were other articles about subjects named "Lizzie Woods," I might be inclined to support keeping this redirect. This is the only article about someone named Lizzie Woods, though, so this is an effectively useless redirect. Dustin (talk) 19:25, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Typhoon Talas (disambiguation)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Consensus isn't clear, but I'm closing these three related discussions since the actions of the nominator have "poisoned the well", so to speak. No prejudice against renomination, though I'd encourage anyone interested to approach the issue systematically, rather than piecemeal. --BDD (talk) 21:15, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No need disambiguation for "Typhoon Talas" N-C16 (talk) 15:25, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The name 'Talas' was used previously to refer to a different storm, but that appears to never have been called specifically 'Typhoon Talas'. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 20:37, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Why redirect Typhoon Talas (disambiguation) to a specific article? The only purpose of such redirects is to mark intentional links to disambiguation pages. older ≠ wiser 23:25, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Struck, IP blocked as sock of the nominator. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:43, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. There's enough similarity between SIAs and DABs to justify keeping redirects like this for those who aren't familiar with the difference (i.e. basically everyone besides a few hundred editors). ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:38, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Typhoon Merbok (disambiguation)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 18:30, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No need disambiguation for "Typhoon Merbok" N-C16 (talk) 15:24, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Target of the redirect is not a disambiguation page. older ≠ wiser 16:24, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, Merbok didn't reach typhoon status according to JMA best track. --219.79.181.210 (talk) 09:13, 24 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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List of tropical storms named Koppu[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep, but the redirect has been converted to a DAB page. JohnCD (talk) 18:57, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Informal redirects of disambiguation page N-C16 (talk) 08:37, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Set indexes aren't disambiguation pages. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Archive 35#Category:Set indices on storms. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:13, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Agree with JHunterJ on this. If WikiProject Tropical cyclones wants to have specialized content for set indexes not appropriate for disambiguation pages, those set index pages should not masquerade as disambiguation pages. older ≠ wiser 16:23, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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List of typhoons named Koppu[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. JohnCD (talk) 18:55, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Informal redirects of disambiguation page N-C16 (talk) 08:37, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Typhoon Mujigae (2009)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. This was nominated by a blocked sockpuppet(eer) with no delete !votes by those in good standing. Note that anyone in good standing may renominate at any time. -- Tavix (talk) 15:48, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mujigae in 2009 didn't reach typhoon status N-C16 (talk) 08:32, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Difference is only relevant to those who are familiar with the different classifications and if there are other storms with the same name. Since there don't' seem to be conflicts, this should be fine. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:40, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Typhoon Linfa (disambiguation)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Consensus isn't clear, but I'm closing these three related discussions since the actions of the nominator have "poisoned the well", so to speak. No prejudice against renomination, though I'd encourage anyone interested to approach the issue systematically, rather than piecemeal. --BDD (talk) 21:15, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No need disambiguation for "Typhoon Linfa" N-C16 (talk) 08:25, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Struck, blocked as a sock of the nominator. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:42, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per BD2412. Deleting this only hurts readers who aren't familiar with naming conventions. Also note that both the nominator and the IP have been blocked for socking. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:41, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Cyclone Haiyan[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Consensus isn't clear, but I'm closing these three related discussions since the actions of the nominator have "poisoned the well", so to speak. No prejudice against renomination, though I'd encourage anyone interested to approach the issue systematically, rather than piecemeal. --BDD (talk) 21:15, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There is no Cyclone Haiyan. Only Typhoon Haiyan. Actually, Cyclone≠Typhoon N-C16 (talk) 07:18, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Struck, IP blocked as sock of the nominator. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:43, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Schoolyard[edit]

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The result of the discussion was publish Draft:Schoolyard and retarget the other redirects to Schoolyard. -- Tavix (talk) 15:31, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(neelix redirect) (No I wasn't going through the list, just searching for redirects to School). They originally pointed to Schulhof but that is worse than the present target. Perhaps retarget to Campus. It is worth noting there is an article in Chinese at zh:校园 but links to Campus, even though the Chinese article only talks about school campuses, so I might remove the Wikidata entry. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 06:10, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Xuexiao[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 18:33, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No affinity for Chinese. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 06:01, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Singapore as a regional and global hub[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 18:34, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to be promotional. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 05:57, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Estaos Uníos[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:23, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible typo for foreign term. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 05:52, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • The missing d's leave the impression that this might be in the Asturian language (but then, the x is missing too). At any rate, I see no relevant of this particular form, so delete unless demonstrated that it's used by a substantial number of Spanish speakers within the US. – Uanfala (talk) 11:21, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Unitesd states[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:21, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not a plausible search term. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 05:50, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete – Aside from being a redirect from an obvious spelling mistake, this redirect is unlikely to help readers. Some particularly common spelling mistakes such as "Untied States" may warrant redirects, but I don't think the same goes for this one. Dustin (talk) 19:45, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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UNited States[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 18:35, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Who would ever search for this? - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 05:47, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - I don't really see the use. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 19:53, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – At this point, the reader would have to even get the spelling correct. This redirect is effectively useless. Dustin (talk) 19:46, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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