Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2014 August 3
August 3
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- File:Daniel Yohannes at signing ceremony for Jordanian Compact.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- According to the EXIF, this image is by "SAUL LOEB/AFP/Getty Images". The source article has nothing to say about where this came from. —innotata 02:13, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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- No evidence this is by NASA or another U.S. government agency.
(FYI, there are better satellite photos of Corsica on Commons, of which the copyright status is known.) —innotata 02:42, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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- File:Lous Jolyon West.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- Source gives no indication that this image originated from the CIA. January (talk) 10:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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- File:Stephany Stefanowitz.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- Source provided is misleading. Not found on http://opmbworldwide.com/. Also, there is no evidence of permission. Uploader appears to be persistent copyright violator. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 15:55, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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- File:Mutya Datul.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- No evidence of permission found on the source (http://www.rappler.com/), well neither the image. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 15:59, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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- File:Janine Tugonon.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- No evidence of permission found on source given, "http://edgarboyet.blogspot.in/". Well, neither the image. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 16:01, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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- File:Ariella Arida.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- No evidence of permission found on source given, "http://www.rappler.com/". Well, neither the image. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 16:02, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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- File:Gwen Ruais.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- No evidence of permission found on source given, "http://gallery.opmbworldwide.com/". Anupmehra -Let's talk! 16:05, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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- File:Dr. Tareq Suheimat.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- This is claimed as own work, but looks like a staged studio portrait. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 18:53, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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- File:Sadanand Brahmbhatt.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- Doubtful own work, this looks like a staged studio image. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 19:10, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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- File:Alan McHugh.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- Match for - http://www.sponsume.com/sites/default/files/projects/John%20Harris%20and%20Zinnie%20Harris-39070/gallery/The%20Garden%20-%20Alan%20McHugh.jpg Sfan00 IMG (talk) 19:13, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
- Comment This section was removed by the uploader without giving any explanation. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:00, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
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- File:Syed Sardar Ahmed Pirzada Receiving APNS Best Urdu Column Award 2012.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- Claimed as an offical Pakistan Govt image, needs a source link or an OTRS from the Govt agency mentioned. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 19:28, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, I am new here so i am not really sure how to discuss this but: 1) OTRS from a govt agency in pakistan is impossible for a person without insane reach. 2) passable proof has been provided in the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XCodeLyokoX (talk • contribs) 21:05, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
- But where is it said that the photos of the PID would be in the public domain? -- Asclepias (talk) 18:31, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- In Pakistan the copyright law is Copyright Ordinance 1962. In it government works are in public domain and one of the major exceptions to copyright (s13). Since PID is a govt organ (see the pid link says gov.pk) anything it releases is in the Public Domain. Secondly this photo was released freely to every person and all media and national dailies WITHOUT any legal licensing, because this is the norm in pakistan with non copyrighted work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XCodeLyokoX (talk • contribs) 20:57, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- Quoting that page:
- In Pakistan the copyright law is Copyright Ordinance 1962. In it government works are in public domain and one of the major exceptions to copyright (s13). Since PID is a govt organ (see the pid link says gov.pk) anything it releases is in the Public Domain. Secondly this photo was released freely to every person and all media and national dailies WITHOUT any legal licensing, because this is the norm in pakistan with non copyrighted work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XCodeLyokoX (talk • contribs) 20:57, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- But where is it said that the photos of the PID would be in the public domain? -- Asclepias (talk) 18:31, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
“ | 22. Term of copyright in Government works and in works of international organizations :-
(1) Copyright in a Government work shall, where Government is the first owner of the copyright therein, subsist until fifty years from the beginning of the calendar year next following the year in which the work is first published. (2) In the case of a work of an international organization to which the provisions of section 53 apply, copyright shall subsist until fifty years from the beginning of the calendar year next following the year in which the work is first published. |
” |
- So it seems that you need to provide evidence that this was published more than 50 years ago if you wish to claim that this is in the public domain. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:05, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- How can a 2012 award be awarded 50 years ago, Stefan2? XD Sfan00 IMG (talk) 22:09, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- Well, if you look at "57. Certain acts not to be infringement of copyright" you will see that publishing the picture in wikipedia will not infringe copyright because of many reasons, it being a historic event, it being equivalent of a report on SSAP just to name a few. If i change its status to Copyrighted but fair usage, will it solve this issue? :/ I really don't know what to say. Copyright is very different in Pakistan here, I am uplading another photograph to commons and I had to chase down the photographer and he had never heard of a license agreement before. The things I CAN give you as evidence that this picture is absolutely free for use: 1)The name of the person who gave this photo and the name of the person who received the photo. 2) The name of the national dailies that printed APNS photos after the PRESS RELEASE (which is designed to be utilized by everyone and anyone for). — Preceding unsigned comment added by XCodeLyokoX (talk • contribs) 12:41, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
- Two errors:
- Wikipedia is not hosted in Pakistan but in the United States, so what Pakistani law says is irrelevant. What Pakistani law says about copyright expiration is partially relevant, though.
- A permission which only applies to Wikipedia is insufficient. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:10, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
- Help me out here please. I know for a fact that the picture is utterly and completely free to use. It was given to the contestant who won the award and whose picture was taken. No license agreement came with the handing over of the picture because it is not the norm in pakistan. Apart from getting you guys an OTRS from a Government Agency (which i CANNOT do since i am a normal person) what can i do about it? Since the picture was given to the contestant to use anyway he deems necessary (its his picture after all) would an OTRS from this person suffice? Since PID has given the picture to own and to use in anyway to the contestant (and main subject in the picture) isnt he the copyright holder too by US Law? — Preceding unsigned comment added by XCodeLyokoX (talk • contribs) 16:16, 5 August 2014 (UTC) XCodeLyokoX (talk) 18:12, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
- If you think that the file is free to use, then you need to provide evidence of this. Only evidence of the contrary has been provided so far. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:37, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
- If i am able to get an OTRS from the person who this picture was released to (the contestant) and change the type to copyrighted but fair use, will that suffice? I know this is in the public domain, but since i cant prove that if i put it up as copyrighted but fair use with the above mentioned permission, is that fine?XCodeLyokoX (talk) 21:54, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
- If you think that the file is free to use, then you need to provide evidence of this. Only evidence of the contrary has been provided so far. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:37, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
- Help me out here please. I know for a fact that the picture is utterly and completely free to use. It was given to the contestant who won the award and whose picture was taken. No license agreement came with the handing over of the picture because it is not the norm in pakistan. Apart from getting you guys an OTRS from a Government Agency (which i CANNOT do since i am a normal person) what can i do about it? Since the picture was given to the contestant to use anyway he deems necessary (its his picture after all) would an OTRS from this person suffice? Since PID has given the picture to own and to use in anyway to the contestant (and main subject in the picture) isnt he the copyright holder too by US Law? — Preceding unsigned comment added by XCodeLyokoX (talk • contribs) 16:16, 5 August 2014 (UTC) XCodeLyokoX (talk) 18:12, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
- Two errors:
- Well, if you look at "57. Certain acts not to be infringement of copyright" you will see that publishing the picture in wikipedia will not infringe copyright because of many reasons, it being a historic event, it being equivalent of a report on SSAP just to name a few. If i change its status to Copyrighted but fair usage, will it solve this issue? :/ I really don't know what to say. Copyright is very different in Pakistan here, I am uplading another photograph to commons and I had to chase down the photographer and he had never heard of a license agreement before. The things I CAN give you as evidence that this picture is absolutely free for use: 1)The name of the person who gave this photo and the name of the person who received the photo. 2) The name of the national dailies that printed APNS photos after the PRESS RELEASE (which is designed to be utilized by everyone and anyone for). — Preceding unsigned comment added by XCodeLyokoX (talk • contribs) 12:41, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
- How can a 2012 award be awarded 50 years ago, Stefan2? XD Sfan00 IMG (talk) 22:09, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- So it seems that you need to provide evidence that this was published more than 50 years ago if you wish to claim that this is in the public domain. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:05, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
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- File:Saraju Mohanty 2012.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- Doubtful own work, this looks like a studio headshot. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 19:35, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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- File:Pixieforest.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- This is a sign, and as such may need a seperate license. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 19:39, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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- File:PeriklisHolargos.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
- This is a photo of a statue, No date is given for the statue. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 19:43, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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- This is a screenshot. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 19:47, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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- This is a screenshot. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 19:47, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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- File:PDF Buddy Logo.png (delete | talk | history | logs).
- This is a software logo Sfan00 IMG (talk) 19:47, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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- Software screenshot, needs to be free software or OTRS permisson granted. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 19:48, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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- Software screenshot, needs to be free software or OTRS permisson granted. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 19:48, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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