Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/75th Primetime Emmy Awards/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Hey man im josh via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 1 February 2025 (UTC) [1].[reply]

75th Primetime Emmy Awards

Featured list candidates/75th Primetime Emmy Awards/archive1

Nominator(s): Birdienest81talk and RunningTiger123 (talk) 09:55, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We are nominating the 2023 Primetime Emmys because we believe it has great potential to become a Featured List. I followed how the 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2024 were written and structured. Note: RunningTiger123 is also listed as a co-nominator since he made considerable and significant contributions to this list. Birdienest81talk 09:55, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

File:75thEmmysPoster.jpeg - Fair use
File:Jeremy Allen White, AT&T Center, 2013.jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0
File:Quinta Brunson Peabody Awards, Jun 2023.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
File:Kieran Culkin by Gage Skidmore.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
File:Sarah Snook Saphires (cropped).jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0
File:SDCC 2015 - Steven Yeun (19674345441) (cropped).jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0
File:Ali Wong for Wired.jpg - CC BY 3.0
File:Ebon Moss-Bachrach by Gage Skidmore.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
File:Ayo Edebiri (2018) (cropped).jpg - CC BY 2.0
File:Matthew Macfadyen 2019.jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0
File:Jennifer Coolidge - Cropped.jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0
File:20210526—Paul Walter Hauser, interview for "Cruella", LosCriticologos (05m21s).jpg - CC BY 3.0
File:Niecy Nash 2010.jpg - CC BY 2.0
File:Anthony Anderson 2010.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
All images have proper captions, alt text, though must change the images size using |upright rather than a fixed px size.
- @Birdienest81: Here are my comments! Arconning (talk) 10:38, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Arconning: I believe Birdienest81 has addressed the image sizing. RunningTiger123 (talk) 18:44, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support on image review :) Arconning (talk) 12:13, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

OlifanofmrTennant

Paragraph 2 appears to be a MOS:SOB violation
- I thought MOS:SOB is when two or more links are directly next to each other and appear to be one link; the commas here prevent that from happening. RunningTiger123 (talk) 18:56, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - I mustve been thinking off a different policy Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:13, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

* "[Downtown Los Angeles], [California]" MOS:GEOLINK violation

~~Unpipe Peacock Theater and just use the Microsoft theater redirect per WP:NOTBROKEN~~

"The ceremony returned to the Microsoft Theater in Downtown Los Angeles, California, after two years at other venues due to the COVID-19 pandemic." clarify that the Microsoft theater has been the venue since 2008
- Unless I'm missing something, the previous three points appear to be from the 74th ceremony's page. RunningTiger123 (talk) 18:56, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - Your right I don't know how I made that mistake Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 16:46, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Comedy Series is linked twice in the Winners and Nominees prose
The Bear had some contraversy about it being considered a comedy could you write about it in either Ceramony information subpage ([2][3][4][5]
- I'm open to more input on this, but I don't know that this is an issue specific to this show or this ceremony. I think there's a better place for it at the show's article and maybe at the main Primetime Emmys article. RunningTiger123 (talk) 18:56, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's all I got, ping me when done Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 23:34, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @OlifanofmrTennant: See above. RunningTiger123 (talk) 18:56, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  Well I wont oppose on the bear thing. Support Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:14, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

History6042's comments

Grammar

"were honored included All in the Family" -> "were honored were All in the Family" Were makes much more sense here than included.
"All in the Family. Ally McBeal, Cheers, Grey's Anatomy, and The Sopranos." -> "All in the Family, Ally McBeal, Cheers, Grey's Anatomy, and The Sopranos." This should be a comma, not a period.
"let host Anderson's mom Doris Bowman interrupt", "let host Anderson's mom, Doris Bowman, interrupt"
"acceptance speech as "terribly awkward"." -> "acceptance speech was "terribly awkward"."
"host Anderson's mom" -> "Anderson's mother" The word host is not necessary here, it's not a title.

WP:MOS

I am not sure if its avoidable but there is a definite violation of WP:SEAOFBLUE in paragraph 2.
- As above, I disagree; SEAOFBLUE says do not place links next to each other, to avoid appearing like a single link, which the commas prevent. Maybe WP:OVERLINK is what you meant, but I personally think the links to the winning shows are relevant. RunningTiger123 (talk) 19:04, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe something about the delay should be added to the lede. History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:13, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- There's a sentence in the first paragraph; do you think that should be expanded? RunningTiger123 (talk) 19:04, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  Yes, maybe a bit more detail. If you do not think its justified however you do not have to. History6042😊 (Contact me) 19:14, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  To be honest, I can't figure out how to add more information without getting bogged down in play-by-play updates of the changes, but if you have suggestions I'm all ears. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:41, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@History6042: Updates have been made. RunningTiger123 (talk) 19:04, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"The awards ceremony was held live" - weird wording - how could it be held not live....?
"Amazon Freevee and Tubi each earned their first nominations this year" - last two words are redundant, I think
"this marked the first time two Black women won both comedy female acting categories in a single year" => "this marked the first time Black women won both comedy female acting categories in a single year" is fine I think
"This marked the second year in a row that the ceremony would fall on a Monday" => "This marked the second year in a row that the ceremony fell on a Monday"
"The ceremony would be produced by Jesse Collins Entertainment" => "The ceremony was produced by Jesse Collins Entertainment"
"not attend promotional events while the strike is ongoing" => "not attend promotional events while the strike was ongoing"
"and the winner's emotional acceptance speeches" => "and the winners' emotional acceptance speeches"
"It also achieved a 0.87 rating among adults ages 18–49" => "It achieved a 0.87 rating among adults ages 18–49" (the "also" doesn't seem to connect to anything in the previous sentence, which doesn't talk in terms of ratings.
"The annual In Memoriam segment was introduced by Rob Reiner and Sally Struthers, which included" - I think "Rob Reiner and Sally Struthers introduced the annual In Memoriam segment, which included" would read more naturally
That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:33, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude: I slightly tweaked how I reworded your fourth bullet point; all other suggestions have been implemented. RunningTiger123 (talk) 20:28, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:32, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source and image review from TheDoctorWho

All images have alt text.
All images are free to use except for the poster, which has a proper fair use rationale.
TVLine needs linked in Ref 16.
Refs 2, 15, 17, 20, 27, 29, 44, 45, 47, 66, 73, 76, 86, and 87 lack archives.
I noticed a few MOS:CURLY quotes in some titles, I suggest running this script.
The sources also use a mix of title and sentence case, only one format should be used. There's also a script for this.
Spot checked refs 1, 14, 19, 21, 29, 58, 70, 78, 95, and 96, everything checks out except for the below.
- I don't see a mention in ref 1 that it was three hours long, there are brief mentions of when it went off air and 20 second overage, unless I'm missing something?

Great work! Just a few comments, mainly around archives and titles. TheDoctorWho (talk) 05:33, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TheDoctorWho: Regarding ref 1, the second paragraph states it ran for 3 hours (and the lines you mention confirm it did not run over). Regarding the archives, IABot doesn't seem to be able to add the archives – not sure why, but I can try taking a look and manually adding them (or at least make sure they've been added to Wayback Machine). All other items should be addressed. RunningTiger123 (talk) 06:38, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Would have helped me find the proper sentence in ref 1 if I had CTRL-F'd "three" instead of "3"

, my apologies. I won't hold this back because of the pesky IABot, I've struggled with it not picking up archives myself. Everything else checks out. Source and image reviews pass and I'm happy to support. TheDoctorWho (talk) 06:45, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Was just about to follow up on my previous comment – I can confirm all of the sources are in Wayback Machine, so even if IABot is having issues they'll be available. RunningTiger123 (talk) 06:46, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man im josh

This review is based on this version of the article.

Source review: Passed

Reliable enough for the information being cited
Consistent date formatting
Consistent and proper reference formatting
Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
Spot checks on 15 sources match what they are being cited for

Feedback:

Ref 12 – Add url-access parameter
Ref 75 – Add url-access parameter
Ref 92 – Add url-access parameter
Ref 82 – Needs a publish date

That's all I've got, good stuff as always. Please ping me when the above has been addressed. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:17, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Hey man im josh: All done except the last one – I think you meant ref 83? RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:10, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I must have, yes. I see it's now been addressed, so support. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:05, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:39, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.