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23 March 2022[edit]

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Priyanka Choudhary (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

Article was deleted with the stated reason of lack of notability WP:N which is not correct as the actress has done four lead roles. Two main lead and two parallel lead roles. According to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Priyanka Choudhary and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Priyanka Choudhary (2nd nomination), the article was deleted because Choudhary had only one significant role. Her lead roles in four different bollywood films were considered unaccredited because those films were not box-office hits. But it should be noted that still, Choudhary has done more significant lead roles which was in a web-series named '3g gaali gloch girls' of Ullu app. It is a significant lead role because the series was declared one of the best indian web-series in 2020. Please check [1].
To enforce this point: Choudhary is currently playing lead role in Udaariyaan(important point to be noted Udaariyaan is one of the top rated shows currently broadcast in indian television of which Priyanka Choudhary is the main lead).
Furthermore, she had also played the lead in 2019 in '3g gaali gloch girls' of Ullu app and she had two other significant roles too!
She didn't play the main lead but she was one of the parallel leads in Gathbandhan and Yeh Hai Chahatein which is proven through these:[2], [3],[4]. There is no clear definition of 'significant' in WP:NACTOR. So, in that case, Choudhary did have multiple significant roles in three very WP:N indian TV serials (even the two parallel lead roles are significant in indian television shows because parallel leads get equal screen space and have a strong base with central characters. Sometimes they have a better footage than the main leads and some will be halted midway based on the audience reaction and trps) and a web-series. Hence, we should give some weightage to other notable serials (Gathbandhan and Yeh Hai Chahatein) in which she acted in as well.
Important point to be noted is that Gathbandhan was one of the top rated WP:N serials of 2019 and Yeh Hai Chahatein is top rated WP:N serials which is still running. I have watched Priyanka in Yeh Hai Chahatein and her character came to an end in the show became it was killed of to form a important twist in it's plot.
Also, it should be noted that the reviewers who last reviewed this draft which was User:Krishnavilasom Bhageerathan Pilla is a "blocked reviewer"!!! So isn't his "review notice" "procedurally" supposed to be reverted? Commonedits (talk) 06:27, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Endorse the close as delete. But is this an appeal of the close, or a relitigation?
    • Asking for allow re-review of draft with respect to these points. Commonedits (talk) 15:32, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse and please stop BLUDGEONing. You have restated the same points in multiple discussions without any change in outcome.
    On second thought, Relist with the condition that if the AfD again closes as delete, then @Commonedits accepts this and does not appeal the decision again. (My logic is something akin to WP:ROPE but with articles and deletion as opposed to users and blocks.) casualdejekyll 18:36, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse; disallow recreation. This article has been deleted four times in the past year, twice as the result of well-attended AfDs in which delete !voters made reasonable guideline-based arguments for deletion. The most recent of these AfDs was just last month. I really don't see how the community could be any clearer that it doesn't consider Ms. Choudhary to be notable, and allowing the article to be recreated yet again would not be respectful of that consensus. This is particularly true since the sources and roles described above all predate the AfDs, meaning that the !voters considered them and found them wanting. I would be open to allowing recreation if Ms. Choudhary plays additional roles or receives additional coverage in the future, but for now I don't think it would be helpful to try the community's patience further. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:16, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I have reviewed and declined the draft again. The draft was submitted before the AFD was closed, and the AFD is a better review than an AFC review. I see no reason to request that the title be unsalted. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:02, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse. The nominator's request is based on a misconception that deletion review is a place to re-argue the deletion discussion in full. It is not. It is a place to call attention to failures to follow deletion process properly. I would also consider listing at WP:DEEPER. Stifle (talk) 11:11, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment to User:Stifle - I concur that the nominator is mistaken in thinking that DRV is a place to relitigate deletion discussions. They have filed three requests in 24 hours. However, I think that I disagree with the suggestion of listing Priyanka Choudha at WP:DEEPER. That is a list of articles whose review here is tendentious because of repeated filings here. I don't see multiple deletion review requests for the article. I see multiple deletion review requests by an editor. I think that the problem is that User:Commonedits may be a vexatious litigant. Are you, User:Stifle, asking about sanctioning appeals of this article, or appeals by this editor? Robert McClenon (talk) 18:14, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • I suppose the latter, in which case WP:DEEPER probably isn't (yet) appropriate. Stifle (talk) 08:39, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.