Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 2
February 2
[edit]Vendée Globe sailors categories
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- The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:34, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Propose deleting
- Propose merging
- Nominator's rationale: One-entry categories that does not aid navigation and that are WP:NARROWCAT. The next event is in four years. Possibly non-defining intersection by nationality and competition as the competitors are not chosen to represent a national entity. Almost all other Category:Sports competitors by nationality and competition are competitions where a NOC or similar send a delegation. Three articles are not in other Fooian sailors (sport) categories and therefore merge proposals. If kept, rename as the article is Vendée Globe and not Vendee Globe. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 22:54, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete/merge per nom. Categories to be deleted contain an article that is already in a male sailor category by nationality. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
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Category:LessWrong
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:34, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary Gjs238 (talk) 21:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, the articles already link to each other directly. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:27, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Years in New York (state) politics
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 15#Category:Years in New York (state) politics
Category:Museums in France by department
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:34, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Museums in Ardèche (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Ardèche and Category:Museums in Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes
- Propose merging Category:Museums in Ardennes (department) (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Ardennes (department) and Category:Museums in Grand Est
- Propose merging Category:Museums in Ariège (department) (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Ariège (department) and Category:Museums in Occitania (administrative region)
- Propose merging Category:Museums in Cantal (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Cantal and Category:Museums in Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes
- Propose merging Category:Museums in Corrèze (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Corrèze and Category:Museums in Nouvelle-Aquitaine
- Propose merging Category:Museums in Côtes-d'Armor (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Côtes-d'Armor and Category:Museums in Brittany
- Propose merging Category:Museums in Drôme (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Drôme and Category:Museums in Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes
- Propose merging Category:Museums in Gers (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Gers and Category:Museums in Occitania (administrative region)
- Propose merging Category:Museums in Hautes-Pyrénées (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Hautes-Pyrénées and Category:Museums in Occitania (administrative region)
- Propose merging Category:Museums in Jura (department) (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Jura (department) and Category:Museums in Bourgogne-Franche-Comté
- Propose merging Category:Museums in Landes (department) (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Landes (department) and Category:Museums in Nouvelle-Aquitaine
- Propose merging Category:Museums in Lot-et-Garonne (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Lot-et-Garonne and Category:Museums in Nouvelle-Aquitaine
- Propose merging Category:Museums in Nièvre (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Nièvre and Category:Museums in Bourgogne-Franche-Comté
- Propose merging Category:Museums in Rhône (department) (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Rhône (department) and Category:Museums in Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes
- Propose merging Category:Museums in Haute-Saône (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Haute-Saône and Category:Museums in Bourgogne-Franche-Comté
- Propose merging Category:Museums in Sarthe (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Sarthe and Category:Museums in Pays de la Loire
- Propose merging Category:Museums in the Territoire de Belfort (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in the Territoire de Belfort and Category:Museums in Bourgogne-Franche-Comté
- Nominator's rationale: All contain 1-2 articles. Not useful for navigation. Merge per WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:59, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:31, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Châteaux in France by department
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:34, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Châteaux in Alpes-de-Haute-Provence (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Alpes-de-Haute-Provence and Category:Châteaux in Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
- Propose merging Category:Châteaux in Corse-du-Sud (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Corse-du-Sud and Category:Châteaux in Corsica
- Propose merging Category:Châteaux in Haute-Saône (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Haute-Saône and Category:Châteaux in Bourgogne-Franche-Comté
- Propose merging Category:Châteaux in Savoie (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Savoie and Category:Châteaux in Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes
- Propose merging Category:Châteaux in Vosges (department) (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Vosges (department) and Category:Châteaux in Grand Est
- Propose merging Category:Châteaux in Seine-Saint-Denis (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Seine-Saint-Denis and Category:Châteaux in Île-de-France
- Propose merging Category:Châteaux in Drôme (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Drôme and Category:Châteaux in Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes
- Propose merging Category:Châteaux in Haute-Savoie (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Haute-Savoie and Category:Châteaux in Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes
- Propose merging Category:Châteaux in Ille-et-Vilaine (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Ille-et-Vilaine and Category:Châteaux in Brittany
- Propose merging Category:Châteaux in Loire (department) (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Loire (department) and Category:Châteaux in Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes
- Propose merging Category:Châteaux in Var (department) (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Var (department) and Category:Châteaux in Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
- Nominator's rationale: All contain 1-2 articles. Not useful for navigation. Merge per WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:33, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:32, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Churches in France by department
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:35, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Ardèche (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Ardèche and Category:Churches in Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Charente (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Charente and Category:Churches in Nouvelle-Aquitaine
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Cher (department) (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Cher (department) and Category:Churches in Centre-Val de Loire
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Corrèze (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Corrèze and Category:Churches in Nouvelle-Aquitaine
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Creuse (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Creuse and Category:Churches in Nouvelle-Aquitaine
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Dordogne (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Dordogne and Category:Churches in Nouvelle-Aquitaine
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Eure-et-Loir (0) to Category:Religious buildings and structures in Eure-et-Loir and Category:Churches in Centre-Val de Loire
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Hautes-Alpes (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Hautes-Alpes and Category:Churches in Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Indre (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Indre and Category:Churches in Centre-Val de Loire
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Jura (department) (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Jura (department) and Category:Churches in Bourgogne-Franche-Comté
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Loire (department) (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Loire (department) and Category:Churches in Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Lot (department) (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Lot (department) and Category:Churches in Occitania (administrative region)
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Lot-et-Garonne (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Lot-et-Garonne and Category:Churches in Nouvelle-Aquitaine
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Lozère (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Lozère and Category:Churches in Occitania (administrative region)
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Haute-Marne (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Haute-Marne and Category:Churches in Grand Est
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Meuse (department) (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Meuse (department) and Category:Churches in Grand Est
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Nièvre (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Nièvre and Category:Churches in Bourgogne-Franche-Comté
- Propose merging Category:Churches in the Territoire de Belfort (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in the Territoire de Belfort and Category:Churches in Bourgogne-Franche-Comté
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Essonne (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Essonne and Category:Churches in Île-de-France
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Hauts-de-Seine (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Hauts-de-Seine and Category:Churches in Île-de-France
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Val-d'Oise (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Val-d'Oise and Category:Churches in Île-de-France
- Nominator's rationale: All contain 1-2 articles. Not useful for navigation. Merge per WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:24, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Sports venues in Flemish Brabant
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:35, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Sports venues in Flemish Brabant (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Flemish Brabant and Category:Sport in Flemish Brabant
- Propose merging Category:Sports venues in Luxembourg (Belgium) (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Luxembourg (Belgium) and Category:Sport in Luxembourg (Belgium)
- Nominator's rationale: Each contain 1-2 articles. Not useful for navigation. Merge per WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:07, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:34, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Christian monasteries in Luxembourg (Belgium)
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:35, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Christian monasteries in Luxembourg (Belgium) (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Luxembourg (Belgium) and Category:Christian monasteries in Wallonia
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Luxembourg (Belgium) (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Luxembourg (Belgium) and Category:Churches in Wallonia
- Propose merging Category:Churches in Walloon Brabant (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Walloon Brabant and Category:Churches in Wallonia
- Nominator's rationale: Contains 1-2 articles. Not useful for navigation. Merge per WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:59, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:56, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Canals in Belgium by province
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:35, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Canals in East Flanders (0) to Category:Landforms of East Flanders and Category:Canals in Flanders
- Propose merging Category:Canals in Flemish Brabant (0) to Category:Landforms of Flemish Brabant and Category:Canals in Flanders
- Propose merging Category:Canals in Hainaut (province) (0) to Category:Landforms of Hainaut (province) and Category:Canals in Wallonia
- Propose merging Category:Canals in Walloon Brabant (0) to Category:Landforms of Walloon Brabant and Category:Canals in Wallonia
- Nominator's rationale: All contain 1-2 articles. Not useful for navigation. Merge per WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:57, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:57, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Airports in Walloon Brabant
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:35, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Contains 1 article. Not useful for navigation. Merge per WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:53, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:58, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Buildings and structures in Albania by populated place
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:35, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Tropojë (0) to Category:Tropojë and Category:Buildings and structures in Kukës County
- Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Gramsh, Elbasan (0) to Category:Gramsh, Elbasan and Category:Buildings and structures in Elbasan County
- Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Prrenjas (0) to Category:Prrenjas and Category:Buildings and structures in Elbasan County
- Propose merging Category:Mosques in Peqin (0) to Category:Mosques in Albania and Category:Buildings and structures in Peqin
- Propose merging Category:Schools in Durrës (0) to Category:Education in Durrës and Category:Buildings and structures in Durrës
- Propose merging Category:Schools in Gjirokastër (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Gjirokastër
- Propose merging Category:Schools in Shkodër (0) to Category:Education in Shkodër and Category:Buildings and structures in Shkodër
- Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Lushnjë (0) to Category:Lushnjë Category:Buildings and structures in Fier County
- Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Patos (municipality) (0) to Category:Patos (municipality), Category:Buildings and structures in Fier County
- Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Shijak (0), Category:Shijak, and Category:Buildings and structures in Durrës County
- Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Skrapar (0) to Category:Skrapar and Category:Buildings and structures in Berat County
- Propose merging Category:Sports venues in Kavajë (0) to Category:Sport in Kavajë and Category:Buildings and structures in Kavajë
- Propose deleting Category:Education in Gjirokastër (0)
- Nominator's rationale: All contain 1-2 articles. Not useful for navigation. Merge per WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:45, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:59, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
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Redundant WP:RUSSIA categories
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) —Compassionate727 (T·C) 22:13, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:NA-importance Category-Class Russia pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:NA-importance Disambig-Class Russia pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:NA-importance Draft-Class Russia pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:NA-importance File-Class Russia pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:NA-importance FM-Class Russia pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:NA-importance Portal-Class Russia pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:NA-importance Project-Class Russia pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:NA-importance Template-Class Russia pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:NA-importance Category-Class Russia articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) (added January 16)
- Propose deleting Category:NA-importance Disambig-Class Russia articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) (added January 16)
- Propose deleting Category:NA-importance Draft-Class Russia articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) (added January 16)
- Propose deleting Category:NA-importance File-Class Russia articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) (added January 16)
- Propose deleting Category:NA-importance FM-Class Russia articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) (added January 16)
- Propose deleting Category:NA-importance Portal-Class Russia articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) (added January 16)
- Propose deleting Category:NA-importance Project-Class Russia articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) (added January 16)
- Propose deleting Category:NA-importance Template-Class Russia articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) (added January 16)
- Nominator's rationale: More redundant categories; all categories, templates, etc. are of NA-importance to WP:RUSSIA. Delete them as redundant to e.g. Category:Template-Class Russia pages. BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 22:00, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support per nom. This appears to be the only WikiProject that uses this unique categorization format. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:06, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- No, WP Russia is not the only project to use intersection categories by quality and importance, and at least WP:COMICS also has cats for NA-importance, which were nominated two days ago at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_January_13#Redundant_WP:COMICS_categories. Ah, you can see at a glance at Category:NA-importance pages which projects have subcatted these, e.g. 20th Century Studios, Africa, amphibian and reptile, Animation, Archaeology, Astronomy, Australia etc. – Fayenatic London 14:08, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- I stand corrected. It appears that these eight Russia categories were renamed from "Foo articles" to "Foo pages" as part of a broader mass-renaming, but it was premature to include them. The other intersection categories you cite were not similarly renamed. Would it be a problem to move the category pages back to their old titles? (I don't want to upset any apple carts while this CfD is pending!) --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:34, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- If kept, we should send them back to the original name until the templates are updated. However, I still maintain that they are redundant to the generic, importance-less class categories. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:12, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- I stand corrected. It appears that these eight Russia categories were renamed from "Foo articles" to "Foo pages" as part of a broader mass-renaming, but it was premature to include them. The other intersection categories you cite were not similarly renamed. Would it be a problem to move the category pages back to their old titles? (I don't want to upset any apple carts while this CfD is pending!) --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:34, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- No, WP Russia is not the only project to use intersection categories by quality and importance, and at least WP:COMICS also has cats for NA-importance, which were nominated two days ago at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_January_13#Redundant_WP:COMICS_categories. Ah, you can see at a glance at Category:NA-importance pages which projects have subcatted these, e.g. 20th Century Studios, Africa, amphibian and reptile, Animation, Archaeology, Astronomy, Australia etc. – Fayenatic London 14:08, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, the contents are still at the previous names using "articles", e.g. Category:NA-importance FM-Class Russia articles (0), pending further changes to templates. If you still want to delete, please list those category redirect pages as well so that participants can see the contents. – Fayenatic London 14:08, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london: Added them to the nomination; is your oppose just that they were not included (a mistake on my part) or that you believe these categories are useful? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:16, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment What code changes are needed to implement these? Note to closing admin Please do not list these on the automatic working page until the code changes are made. Timrollpickering (talk) 21:01, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Timrollpickering: None; Module:WikiProject banner already uses the Lua version of {{#ifexist}} on the category outputs. In fact, the closer should not list these at CFDW and instead delete them directly; the contents will be automatically emptied. Best, BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 01:31, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: So far, the only person who has expressed a clear opinion on the nominator's substantial proposal (eliminating the NA-importance categories in favor of categories specifying only class) is the nominator himself.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Compassionate727 (T·C) 15:19, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Support per nom. "NA-importance" is implied for these namespaces. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:03, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Alumni lists
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Alumni lists to Category:Lists of people by educational affiliation
- Nominator's rationale: Use pre-existing category Gjs238 (talk) 15:08, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Fine to me, I was not aware of this category and I didn't saw it on any page that I added to my alumni category. I don't know how to merge categories though. PhotographyEdits (talk) 19:31, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Gjs238 Wait, I do actually disagree because not all articles are educational institutions. Examples include List of Clarion Writers Workshop alumni and List of Bell Labs alumni. PhotographyEdits (talk) 20:21, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- Manually merge. Some of the lists are already (or should be) in subcategories of the target. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:19, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
Category:Murdered American gangsters by criminal organization
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 11#Category:Murdered American gangsters by criminal organization
Medieval events
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:36, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Propose manually merging Category:Medieval events to Category:Middle Ages
- Propose manually merging Category:Events in the Byzantine Empire to Category:Byzantine Empire
- Propose manually merging Category:Events in the medieval Islamic world to Category:Medieval Islamic world
- Nominator's rationale: manually merge, the word "events" is used here as "anything that happened" in this period, and is thus a rather meaningless distinction. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:28, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Manually merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:55, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Scholars of Precolonial East Africa
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 10#Category:Scholars of Precolonial East Africa
Category:Works set in prison
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Forms a category loop with Category:Fiction set in prison, and contains no articles. All the other subcategories are already in the other category. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:00, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- "Fiction set in X" categories normally only contain "Works set in X" and Fictional elements in X (mostly characters). This case is no exception to that. I tend to think that the "Fiction set in" category layer is redundant, rather than the "Works set in" layer. The works and fictional elements can be linked to each other in the header of the category page, just like songs and albums. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:27, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. This is the parent category. There is narrative non-fiction set in prison(s), and deleting this would result in removing those works from the category tree. This also includes any future works that are created which is highly likely. Further I note that Category:Documentary films about the penal system (which is non-fiction) is part of Category:Films set in prison so really the Medium by setting tree is better suited to the "works by setting" structure because the medium cats by setting do not inherently sort out fiction from non-fiction. The whole Fiction by setting category structure is badly conceived and should probably be deprecated. If a deletion happens it should be the fiction category that is deleted after being merged to this one.4meter4 (talk) 00:33, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - I just tagged Category:Fiction set in prison (for merging to Category:Works set in prison). Essentially a reverse merge. If someone would like to relist this : ) - jc37 18:26, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Reverse merge and purge As noted above, "Works" is the broader cat. And I'm looking at the "fiction" cat, and it's filled with films and songs, etc., so UpMerging would be appropriate. It also has characters, which aren't settings nor are they fictional works that are set anywhere. And for that matter, it also has fictional settings, which shouldn't be here either. In other words, these are fictional elements, not the works of fiction themselves. See also: Category:Fictional elements by work. And while we do not have Category:Fictional characters by work, we do have: Category:Fictional locations by work. What we don't have: Category:Fictional characters by fictional work setting. Nor do we have: Category:Fictional places by fictional work setting. Sounds like too many intersections for categorizing. - jc37 18:26, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
Category:Experts on refugees
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Making a concrete proposal might find consensus. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:24, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: I stumbled on this category when I stumbled on the deletion discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zoe Gardner (migration expert), and I saw a tangent about this category. While it is true that many people on Wikipedia are widely considered as experts in their subject, there are only three categories named "Experts on...": those are for terrorism, North Korea and refugees. Other categories on specialism would be like Category:Psephologists (not "experts on elections") or Category:Seismologists (not "experts on earthquakes") I looked at the articles in this category, and there is a mixture of activists and academics. Both of these can be problematic when we have a category on expertise. If the category was named "pro-refugee activists", that seems better to me, because it is about their position, rather than expertise. If a pro-refugee activist is not academically qualified, I feel that opens the way to having anti-refugee activists also having to be in the category of "experts", as both will be known for activism on the subject, and both will have no academic credentials to prove it. When it comes to academics, obviously they do not pin their colours to the mast quite like activists, but there are also highly qualified people who are known for writings that criticise migration and asylum. Those would fall under the banner of "experts on refugees", and would probably lead to edit wars on exactly who qualifies as an expert. TLDR: Category mixes activists and academics. Should they be separated? Category is based on expertise, which is subjective. In the case of unqualified activists, the category could also be applied to anti-refugee activists, as the category only mentions unquantifiable "expertise", not position. Unknown Temptation (talk) 21:04, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- There unlike Seismology, there is no Refugelogy, hence the name is fine. As for how to populate it, the only criteria is whether a person is called "expert on refugees", exactly in the same way as other experts are identified. BTW, this term is used in Wikipedia: Nora Sveaass (born 11 December 1949) is a Norwegian psychologist, and an expert on refugees, human rights violations, and psychological consequences of torture --Altenmann >talk 22:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Second issue: there is an official term "migration expert", the term used in Wikipedia, but it looks like it is a more general term. --Altenmann >talk 22:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- At the same time, from the bio "Nora Sveaass (born 11 December 1949) is a Norwegian psychologist, and an expert on refugees, human rights violations, and psychological consequences of torture" it would be tempting to introduce category:Experts on torture, etc. Hence my suggestion:
- create category:Experts on human rights and merge the discussed one there. We have plenty experts on human rights in Wikpedia as well, such as Cecilia Bailliet (born 24 April 1969) is a Norwegian/Argentine/US professor of law who became the United Nations Independent Expert on human rights and international solidarity in 2023. --Altenmann >talk 22:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, I don't see a problem. "Scholars" categories may also contain non-academics, depending on context. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:11, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:49, 16 January 2025 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will note that creating a category does not need discussion, but merging a category does.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:34, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, or rename pro-refugee activists. Calling someone an expert is POV, and even worse almost no one in this category is even described that way. It's an arbitrary assortment of people Campaigning on something does not make you an expert, and I'm not sure if there is a relevant academic field. In any case, only one or two of the people here would fit in an academic category. Our two other "Experts on" categories are misnamed and have also been nominated. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:22, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- Agree that human rights activists do not belong in this category. But most articles aren't about human rights activists. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:53, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle But what do they have in common? Nothing really, besides some sort of affiliation with any aspect of refugees, which is not really defining. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:22, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- They (the ones that should stay) are academics with a specialization in the topic of refugees. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- So are you advocating renaming this like "Scholars of refugees" or something? Experts is not workable. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:57, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- I am not advocating it per se, but I would not oppose it either. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:34, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- I am for anything that does not have "experts" in the name. PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:18, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- I am not advocating it per se, but I would not oppose it either. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:34, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- So are you advocating renaming this like "Scholars of refugees" or something? Experts is not workable. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:57, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- They (the ones that should stay) are academics with a specialization in the topic of refugees. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle But what do they have in common? Nothing really, besides some sort of affiliation with any aspect of refugees, which is not really defining. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:22, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Agree that human rights activists do not belong in this category. But most articles aren't about human rights activists. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:53, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the discussion between PARAKANYAA and Marcocapelle?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:27, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Setians
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Setians to Category:Temple of Set
- Nominator's rationale: The title and description is confusing, but every item listed is affiliated with or is the Temple of Set. Non-Temple of Set Set affiliations are not included. Category should thus be renamed. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:15, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
- Alternative: Stephen Flowers and Nikolas Schreck aren't clearly affiliated and the others can be put in a Category:High priests of the Temple of Set. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:09, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think Schreck is fairly affiliated (flowers probably is but it's not mentioned in the article now, so, fair). It also, IMO, makes little sense to have a category of high priests excluding the actual main Temple of Set article. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:47, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- The main Temple of Set article can still be mentioned in the category description. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:40, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- I would oppose this for the reason that as this category expands I think most of the topics included would not be high priests. And it makes sense to deal with as an eponymous category. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:25, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- At least we need something else in order to keep the category in the tree of Category:Occultists by religion. It is a people category. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:08, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's also in some non-people cats, like "New religious movements established in the 1970s" and "left-hand path". So we could just remove that. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:36, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
- At least we need something else in order to keep the category in the tree of Category:Occultists by religion. It is a people category. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:08, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- I would oppose this for the reason that as this category expands I think most of the topics included would not be high priests. And it makes sense to deal with as an eponymous category. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:25, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- The main Temple of Set article can still be mentioned in the category description. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:40, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think Schreck is fairly affiliated (flowers probably is but it's not mentioned in the article now, so, fair). It also, IMO, makes little sense to have a category of high priests excluding the actual main Temple of Set article. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:47, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Needs third-party opinion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:25, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Temple of Set occultists, per Category:Occultists by religion. After looking through other such categories, only the large religions that need diffusing seem to split out their members. However, this one is only the main article and people. And we tend to keep people cats separate, per WP:SEPARATE. And this name should makr it less ambiguous as to what the category holds. - jc37 23:54, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- That is fine with me as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:29, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
Theatres by populated place
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:11, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Linz (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Linz and Category:Theatres in Austria
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Liège (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Liège and Category:Theatres in Belgium
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Chongqing (0) to Category:Performing arts venues in Chongqing and Category:Theatres in China
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Macau (0) to Category:Performing arts venues in Macau and Category:Theatres in China
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Osijek (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Osijek and Category:Theatres in Croatia
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Rijeka (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Rijeka and Category:Theatres in Croatia
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Nicosia (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Nicosia and Category:Theatres in Cyprus
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Ostrava (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Ostrava and Category:Theatres in the Czech Republic
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Plzeň (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Plzeň and Category:Theatres in the Czech Republic
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Aarhus (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Aarhus and Category:Theatres in Denmark
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Corfu (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Corfu and Category:Theatres in Greece
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Patras (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Patras and Category:Theatres in Greece
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Thessaloniki (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Thessaloniki and Category:Theatres in Greece
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Debrecen (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Debrecen and Category:Theatres in Hungary
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Győr (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Győr and Category:Theatres in Hungary
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Kaposvár (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Kaposvár and Category:Theatres in Hungary
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Miskolc (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Miskolc and Category:Theatres in Hungary
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Pécs (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Pécs and Category:Theatres in Hungary
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Szeged (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Szeged and Category:Theatres in Hungary
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Zalaegerszeg (0) to Category:Zalaegerszeg and Category:Theatres in Hungary
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Indore (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Indore and Category:Theatres in India
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Waterford (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Waterford (city) and Category:Theatres in the Republic of Ireland
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Ashdod (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Ashdod and Category:Theatres in Israel
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Beersheba (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Beersheba and Category:Theatres in Israel
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Givatayim (0) to Category:Givatayim and Category:Theatres in Israel
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Haifa (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Haifa and Category:Theatres in Israel
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Mirandola (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Mirandola and Category:Theatres in Italy
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Padova (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Padua and Category:Theatres in Italy
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Parma (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Parma and Category:Theatres in Italy
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Sassari (0) to Category:Sassari and Category:Theatres in Italy
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Panevėžys (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Panevėžys and Category:Theatres in Lithuania
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Arendal (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Arendal and Category:Theatres in Norway
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Bergen (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Bergen and Category:Theatres in Norway
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Kristiansand (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Kristiansand and Category:Theatres in Norway
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Trondheim (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Trondheim and Category:Theatres in Norway
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Białystok (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Białystok and Category:Theatres in Poland
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Gdańsk (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Gdańsk and Category:Theatres in Poland
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Katowice (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Katowice and Category:Theatres in Poland
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Poznań (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Poznań and Category:Theatres in Poland
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Toruń (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Toruń and Category:Theatres in Poland
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Wrocław (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Wrocław and Category:Theatres in Poland
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Faro, Portugal (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Faro, Portugal and Category:Theatres in Portugal
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Guimarães (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Guimarães and Category:Theatres in Portugal
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Setúbal (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Setúbal and Category:Theatres in Portugal
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Sibiu (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Sibiu and Category:Theatres in Romania
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Kaluga (0) to Category:Kaluga and Category:Theatres in Russia
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Tula (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Tula, Russia and Category:Theatres in Russia
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Ufa (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Ufa and Category:Theatres in Russia
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Ulan-Ude (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Ulan-Ude and Category:Theatres in Russia
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Kragujevac (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Kragujevac and Category:Theatres in Serbia
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Niš (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Niš and Category:Theatres in Serbia
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Subotica (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Subotica and Category:Theatres in Serbia
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Košice (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Košice and Category:Theatres in Slovakia
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Prešov (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Prešov and Category:Theatres in Slovakia
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Maribor (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Maribor and Category:Theatres in Slovenia
- Propose merging Category:Theatres and concert halls in Melilla (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Melilla and Category:Theatres in Spain
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Valladolid (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Valladolid and Category:Theatres in Spain
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Bern (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Bern and Category:Theatres in Switzerland
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Geneva (0) to Category:Entertainment venues in Geneva and Category:Theatres in Switzerland
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Hereford (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Hereford and Category:Theatres in England
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Wolverhampton (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Wolverhampton, Category:Theatres in Staffordshire, and Category:Theatres in the West Midlands (county)
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Workington (0) to Category:Workington and Category:Theatres in Cumbria
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in York (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in York, Category:Theatre in York, and Category:Theatres in North Yorkshire
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Dundee (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Dundee and Category:Theatres in Scotland
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Kilmarnock (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Kilmarnock and Category:Theatres in Scotland
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Burnsville, North Carolina (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Yancey County, North Carolina and Category:Theatres in North Carolina
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Chapel Hill, North Carolina (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Chapel Hill, North Carolina and Category:Theatres in North Carolina
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Dayton, Ohio (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Dayton, Ohio and Category:Theatres in Ohio
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Lubbock, Texas (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Lubbock, Texas and Category:Theatres in Texas
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Snow Camp, North Carolina (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Alamance County, North Carolina and Category:Theatres in North Carolina
- Propose merging Category:Theatres in Winston-Salem, North Carolina (0) to Category:Buildings and structures in Winston-Salem, North Carolina and Category:Theatres in North Carolina
- Propose deleting Category:Theatre in Macau (0)
- Propose deleting Category:Arts in Waterford (0)
- Propose deleting Category:Entertainment venues in Bern (0)
- Propose deleting Category:Theatres in Herefordshire (0)
- Nominator's rationale: All contain 1-2 articles. Not useful for navigation. Merge per WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 05:05, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:12, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Note: @Aidan721 Theatres in Guimarães now has 3 articles. I support the merge except in this category. V.B.Speranza (talk) 22:32, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:12, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:37, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge. Roundtheworld (talk) 17:51, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom but without prejudice towards recreation at a future date if a sufficient number of theatre articles are created in a given location to have a separate cat.
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Category:Polish engineers who worked in Azerbaijan
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:11, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between nationality, occupation, and place of work. already added members of the category to Foo-th century Polish engineers SMasonGarrison 02:52, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per WP:OCEGRS. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:08, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:39, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nominator.Lost in Quebec (talk) 12:33, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Scholars of Precolonial West Africa
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: isolated category. Category:Precolonial West Africa doesn't exist SMasonGarrison 02:16, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge The commonly accepted definition of West Africa is based on the modern countries. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:10, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- There are archaeological categories which have been accepted for years which delineate by region. HiddenHistoryPedia (talk) 21:18, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge, anachronistic distinction as both north and west precolonial Africa were under Islamic influence. By far the most entries are Islamic scholars. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:46, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- By far the most entries are Islamic scholars, because I am busy and do not have time to trough through Wikipedia to find every scholar who ever lived in West Africa. The point of this category is for other people to add to it over time, so that it would comprise a thorough list of scholars from relevant regions for those interested. The regionalization schema is chosen because it tends to reflect how people, including Africans, tend to concieve of the continent. Not that this would matter anyway - we wouldn't merge every islamic scholarly history related section simply because the scholars invoked are muslim. HiddenHistoryPedia (talk) 21:18, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- I will also note that the distinction is a historic one as much as a contemporary one. There are substantive distinctions between the histories of even the islamic regions of North Africa, and the islamic regions of West Africa -- including the circumstances within which islam spread, the cultures which practiced the religion, and the scholarly movements which developed in each region. There is no Muhammed Bello in North Africa; no 18th-century islamic abolitionism (that I know of) in Morocco, and so on. HiddenHistoryPedia (talk) 21:29, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- By far the most entries are Islamic scholars, because I am busy and do not have time to trough through Wikipedia to find every scholar who ever lived in West Africa. The point of this category is for other people to add to it over time, so that it would comprise a thorough list of scholars from relevant regions for those interested. The regionalization schema is chosen because it tends to reflect how people, including Africans, tend to concieve of the continent. Not that this would matter anyway - we wouldn't merge every islamic scholarly history related section simply because the scholars invoked are muslim. HiddenHistoryPedia (talk) 21:18, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
Category:Scholars of Precolonial North Africa
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: underpopulated cateogry SMasonGarrison 02:15, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge The commonly accepted definition of North Africa is based on the modern countries. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:11, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge, anachronistic distinction as both north and west precolonial Africa were under Islamic influence. The only entry is about an Islamic scholar. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:47, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- The only entry is about one islamic scholar because I am the only person working on this category, and I am busy. Obviously, there are dozens of scholars who could be added to this category, including Ahmed Baba, Al-Kanemi, Ibn Khaldun, Ibn Battuta, etc. Not to mention, pre-islamic scholars (ie: Augustus of Hippo, Hypatia, possibly Cleopatra (who may have written on hair care), and so on. HiddenHistoryPedia (talk) 21:15, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Combining people from the Roman Empire with medieval Islamic scholars in one category would be very odd. Categories are meant to facilitate navigation between related articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:35, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- The only entry is about one islamic scholar because I am the only person working on this category, and I am busy. Obviously, there are dozens of scholars who could be added to this category, including Ahmed Baba, Al-Kanemi, Ibn Khaldun, Ibn Battuta, etc. Not to mention, pre-islamic scholars (ie: Augustus of Hippo, Hypatia, possibly Cleopatra (who may have written on hair care), and so on. HiddenHistoryPedia (talk) 21:15, 10 February 2025 (UTC)