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Category:Organizations based in the Americas by country[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 T--C 16:09, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Each of these categories only contain two categories: one for north america and one for south america without any other content Mason (talk) 23:30, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. It would have been different if there would have been a fair amount of articles covering both continents together, but that is not the case. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:17, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Communications in Latin America[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Latin America. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 T--C 16:09, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 23:55, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mountain bike manufacturing[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Mountain bike manufacturers. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 T--C 16:09, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason (talk) 23:20, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge, the single article fits the target well too. No conceptuele objection to the category, it may be reinstated when there are a number of topic articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:22, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional savateurs[edit]

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Category:Mining communities in the Americas[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 T--C 16:08, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category is unhelpful for navigation with only two categories in it and no content Mason (talk) 22:07, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge/delete (in this particular case merging and deletion are effectively the same) per nom. It would have been different if there would have been a fair amount of articles covering both continents together, but that is not the case. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:42, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yep, I agree that had there been any actual content, it would be worth keeping. Mason (talk) 23:18, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:French toponymy[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 T--C 16:08, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. There is no need to merge, the subcategory is already under e.g. Category:Names of places in France. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:15, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom Mason (talk) 23:28, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Place names[edit]

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Category:Contestants on University Challenge[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete No consensus on whether (or not) to listify, which means the creation of or addition to a list can be done through the standard editorial process. The former contents are available here, if anyone wants to take further action. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:37, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:PERFCAT. Should be selectively upmerged only if their appearance actually was WP:DEFINING for the individual in question. --woodensuperman 14:34, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just delete, for the people who are in this category it is an entirely trivial characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:59, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, I see no distinction here from someone with, say, Category:Actors from Los Angeles instead of California/US, and then proposing merging it into California by saying "only add if their Californianess is defining". As for triviality, their appearance is mentioned in almost every one of their bio's, and it's the one show (with possibly Mastermind) that will be mentioned in mainstream media in their later career, whatever direction they move into. If it were almost any other show I'd agree with the proposal, but not this. Smb1001 (talk) 15:00, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • JUst delete clearly a PERFCAT. With some game shows the PERF launches a career. Some may go on to have distinguished careers, but appearing in the show is a NN part of their student career. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:49, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • As someone who has captained his university on UC, I would dispute that this is a NN part of their student career! -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:44, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Listify or delete?
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  • I am not against listifying per se, but I note that we have a growing backlog of categories to be listified at WP:CFDWM#Listify and there is nobody to pick this up. An alternative is to copy the articles to the talk page of the most appropriate WikiProject for them to listify and then delete the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:27, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That makes sense. Actually creating a list article with sourcing that satisfies WP:NLIST can be difficult. - RevelationDirect (talk) 16:06, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. People who have appeared on a highly significant show and are often well-known for having appeared on the show even if they are also well-known for other things. University Challenge is not a game show, so merging them into the wider category is not an option. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:39, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That clearly isn't the case. These people are all notable for other reasons, the appearance on this TV series is NOT WP:DEFINING. --woodensuperman 09:04, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Gail Trimble, Alexander Guttenplan, Eric Monkman and Bobby Seagull arguably are most notable for their University Challenge appearances, but they are exceptions. Ham II (talk) 09:16, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Then they alone should be merged to Category:Contestants on British game shows, this is still a WP:PERFCAT. --woodensuperman 09:49, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As usual, this is a daft and nonsensical argument trotted out by rote. People are not notable for being born in Plymouth, going to Reading University or dying in 1975 either, but we still categorise them. If we followed the letter of WP:DEFINING we'd have no more than one or two categories for almost every person. The fact we don't shows it is almost always (and rightly) ignored. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:35, 17 January 2024 (UTC)-- Necrothesp (talk) 14:35, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The difference there is that categorising by birthplace, etc, is what community consensus has decided is defining, wheras we have a guideline which explicitly precludes specific performances. And let's not forget that the vast majority of the people in this category are known for much bigger things. Being on University Challenge isn't really what Julian Fellowes, Malcolm Rifkind or Kwasi Kwarteng are known for is it? --woodensuperman 16:42, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think I'd classify appearing on UC (or any other serious quiz show) as a "performance". UC and Mastermind are the most highly regarded TV quizzes in the UK. They're not just some fluffy gameshow. For the rest, I refer you back to my previous comment. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:09, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    An appearance on a television show is a performance. And you cannot be selective and make an exception for this specific TV show. In any case, with rare exceptions, these people are not notable for appearing on this show. In the majority of cases these are people who became notable, but then happened to have appeared on this show in the past. This is not an appropriate subject for a category. --woodensuperman 15:49, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Listify by adding entries to University Challenge § Notable contestants. Ham II (talk) 18:46, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Delete per Marcocapelle, Peterkingiron, and RevelationDirect Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:53, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Paralympic Sport Awards — Best Female winners[edit]

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Category:Public image by individuals[edit]

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Category:Wikipedia articles containing buzzwords[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 T--C 16:06, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This request is to remove the word "Wikipedia" from the name of this category and all subcategories. I'm not sure how or whether it would be helpful to tag all subcategories with this CfD, so I'm only tagging the parent category.

Some maintenance categories use "Articles...", some use "Pages..." and some use "Wikipedia articles...". This makes them harder to find, so I think we should remove the word "Wikipedia" from most or all of them to simplify things. But at the moment I'm only nominating this one. Kk.urban (talk) 06:58, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Western Samoa Trust Territory[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 20:38, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge duplicate category created by user:Johnpacklambert. Rename others without "The" – not needed, and not used in the chronology sub-cats of Category:Western Samoa Trust Territory. – Fayenatic London 16:44, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:International Organisation of Good Templars people[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 18#Category:International Organisation of Good Templars people

Chairman to Chairperson[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 T--C 16:04, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename to be gender inclusive. Some of these people are women. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 16:36, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Support per nom. Mason (talk) 02:48, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:19th-century referees and umpires[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:19th-century sportspeople. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:33, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only covers one century and has, in turn, only one subcategory. Merge subcat with its parent category. Delete the "19th-century referees and umpires". Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:04, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Just delete the "Category:19th-century referees and umpires"; only has one category. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:04, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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@Qwerfjkl, think the final decision was, per @Marcocapelle, merge Category:19th-century referees and umpires to Category:19th-century sportspeople. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:03, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Martial artists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus with no prejudice against speedy renomination. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Has very few articles; does not help in navigation. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:50, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Women referees and umpires[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep Category:Women American football officials; merge Category:Women National Football League officials to Category:Women American football officials and Category:National Football League officials. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:54, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete/merge. Only one category layer. Updating rationale per precedent. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:39, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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@Namiba, is my final proposal a good compromise? Asking for a final consensus. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:04, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that seems like a sensible alternative.--User:Namiba 21:52, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Arms traders[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:50, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Based on opposition to renaming the subcategory Category:Fictional arms dealers to align with this category.
From WP:CFDS
–LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:47, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Berber Islamists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge. There is no opposition to getting rid of the category, and the categorization of any specific article can be discussed at the article's talk page. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:55, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge: Non-defining Intersection between ethnicity and religious sect/political orientation Mason (talk) 02:40, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Faridkot, Punjab[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Faridkot, India. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 T--C 16:03, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per the main article at Faridkot, India which I have moved from Faridkot, Punjab in line with WP:NCIND (no other place with the same name in India i.e. first-level administrative division is not needed in the title, moreover the title was ambiguous with different Faridkots in "Punjab, Pakistan"). Gotitbro (talk) 14:59, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • So far there is apparently no objection to the article move. If that remains the case then the category name can follow. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:37, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support While it wasn't a formal WP:RM, it's been a month since the article move and I don't see any pushback on the talk page. - RevelationDirect (talk) 16:35, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional characters by adaptations or parodies[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 T--C 16:03, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with two very unrelated subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:57, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete That its creator was a rather recent sockpuppet account says it all. Pointless and unnecessary, as is their modus operandi. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:38, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:15th-century Mexican nobility[edit]

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Category:Philanthropists from the Dutch East Indies[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 T--C 16:02, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge this underpopulated category. It's unhelpful for navigation to only have one person in a category Mason (talk) 02:49, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Secret millionaire philanthropists[edit]

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Category:Afghan chiefs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Afghan tribal leaders. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 T--C 16:02, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category. Mason (talk) 01:09, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge or reverse merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:30, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to whatever title is more common. But I would say "tribal leader" is more descriptive. - Altenmann >talk 23:37, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge I created the Afghan chiefs category back in 2020, when I was focused on improving Wikipedia's coverage of Afghan history. At the time I was not aware of the Afghan tribal leaders category - if I were, I don't think I would've made it. Koopinator (talk) 14:42, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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