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Delete Greene is notable as a writer, but we do not have enough spin-off articles for an eponymous category about him. 20:43, 16 February 2021 (UTC)Dimadick (talk)
Delete per nom and the discussion points laid out here. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:59, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Washington Huskies football broadcasters[edit]
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Nominator's rationale:WP:SMALLCAT, one person listed here who can be merged to the two parent categories. No objection to recreation or withdrawal of this nomination if more people can be included.Prisencolin (talk) 22:06, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Roman Catholic archbishops of Bologna[edit]
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Nominator's rationale: This is a test. About half of the subcategories of Category:Roman Catholic archbishops by diocese in Italy are like "Roman Catholic archbishops of somewhere" and the other half are just "Archbishops of somewhere". I dont see any obvious reason for the difference. I cant see any archbishops in Italy who are not Catholic so I'd like to see consistency, and in Italy I dont think we need to specify that they are Roman Catholic. But if we do, lets specify that for all of them. Rathfelder (talk) 21:47, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
More consistency is definitely helpful but I would have a weak preference for the other way around, in order to keep the Roman Catholic category naming consistent across countries. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:33, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Quite a large majority of the categories in Category:Roman Catholic archbishops in Europe by diocese are just "Archbishops of somewhere". Not many churches have archbishops, so in most countries all the archbishops are Roman Catholic. I'm inclined to suggest that we only call them Roman Catholic in places where there is another kind. Rathfelder (talk) 00:13, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You are right in terms of the numbers. However they are likely to be called Roman Catholic in places where there is another kind, so then there is no consistency after all. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:15, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Reverse — better consistency the other way around, renaming those with missing Roman Catholic. Anglicans have archbishops. All the Orthodox Catholic churches also have archbishops. Perhaps a country like Italy or France looks homogenous, but many other countries are far from it. In US major metropolitan areas like Detroit, there are many archbishops (other than 1 Roman Catholic), sometimes they show up for various holiday parades. William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:13, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Reverse rename for consistency sake. I think that Eastern Catholics are more likely to use "Eparch" than "Bishop" though. Laurel Lodged (talk) 14:03, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Most of these categories are linked to articles. See Category:Roman Catholic bishops by diocese They vary in whether they are titled Roman Catholic ... or not, or even Bishops of Somewhere (Roman Catholic) and not for any obvious reason. Some of the articles are called Bishop of Somewhere, and others Roman Catholic Diocese of Somewhere, but most of them are essentially a list of officeholders. Rathfelder (talk) 15:38, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I dont think you can say that we have established category tree names. It varies enormously from country to country. Rathfelder (talk) 00:10, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Let us please stay focused. The nomination was for the sake of consistency. It can only be made fully consistent by means of reverse renaming. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:16, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The inconsistency is because category creators do not follow WP:C2C, a simple rule: match the top category. Oculi (talk) 09:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rename preferably per nom, because the Anglican Church has only one diocesan bishop (with a suffragan) for the whole of continental Europe (see Diocese in Europe. If we must have a denominational descriptor, it should be "Catholic", but much better not, as there is no ambiguity. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:27, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In Italy it seems superfluous to label bishops as Roman Catholic, as I dont think there is any other kind. I think we should aim for consistency by country, and perhaps by chronology. Global consistency seems unobtainable. In some places it would be sensible to designate Roman Catholic clergy of Foo (or some other denomination) after the schism, and just clergy of Foo before. Rathfelder (talk) 20:38, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Reverse per the reasoning of @William Allen Simpson:, who has this exactly right. We already had a similar discussion back in 2008. I created this cat. The "Roman Catholic" specificity is the only elegant way to structure the entire "archbishop" category tree. The "Roman" part differentiates these archbishops from those of the Eastern Catholic Churches. For consistency and accuracy, and to properly acknowledge non-RCC faiths, the names should take the more specific form. --Lockley (talk) 17:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, this concerns categorization by 3rd and 4th level administrative divisions of Greece, leading to a endless series of single-article or 2-article categories. The proposal is to merge to 2nd level administrative division, except cities and larger towns, in this case except Alexandroupoli (58,000 people), Orestiada (20,000 people) and Didymoteicho (9,000 people). This is follow-up on this earlier nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:26, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge All For Now These small cats are not aiding navigation. No objection to recreating any if they exceed expectations and ever get up to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, this concerns categorization by 3rd and 4th level administrative divisions of Greece, leading to a endless series of single-article or 2-article categories. The proposal is to merge to 2nd level administrative division, except cities and larger towns. In this case there aren't any such exceptions. This is follow-up on this earlier nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:26, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge All For Now These small cats are not aiding navigation. No objection to recreating any if they exceed expectations and ever get up to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:36, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge as a good start — Should be categorizing from the top down, not the bottom up. Most of these aren't notable for having been anywhere other than Category:Greek people by occupation, but we can prune. William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:23, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Women in the The Troubles (Northern Ireland)[edit]
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Nominator's rationale: These two soft categories are leftovers from page moves by Rich Farmbrough in February 2016 because of "the The" in the titles, and were also formerly in Category:Empty categories with no backlinks. Not sure why we should keep these around. Regards, SONIC678 21:09, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep if anyone makes one of these "the the" errors, a bot will correct it. All the best: RichFarmbrough 21:12, 15 February 2021 (UTC).[reply]
Delete I don't think the double "the the" is likely to be repeated. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:46, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - what about those who habitually type 'in in'? Are they to be neglected? Oculi (talk) 09:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was:speedy deleteWP:G6. – FayenaticLondon 21:41, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These three were left over from moves to bring their correctly formatted counterparts more in line with naming conventions, and ended up as soft categories after Category:Empty categories with no backlinks (which contained the incorrectly formatted ones) was deleted back in August 2020. I don't see why we should keep these lying around, delete them unless a justification can be provided. Regards, SONIC678 17:06, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - serve no purpose whatever. Oculi (talk) 18:47, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sportspeople from Pilot Butte, Saskatchewan[edit]
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Nominator's rationale: It's a village of 2000 people with no "People from" category at present, I can't imagine it's likely to grow much beyond the current two members so WP:SMALLCATLe Deluge (talk) 09:51, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support - 'People from' should precede 'Sportspeople from'. The parents should be changed. (Or it could be upmerged as the population of Pilot Butte, Saskatchewan is 2000.) Oculi (talk) 11:41, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom.--User:Namiba 15:26, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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"Medicine " in this context is unhelpfully ambiguous. We have well developed category trees for health care and for health. I dont think we want a seperate tree for medicine. Rathfelder (talk) 20:51, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's rationale: This is WP:NONDEFINING. I've yet to hear anyone say, "See that guy? He's associated with water!" Fortunately, there aren't similar categories for earth, air and fire. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:16, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete even as a container category for swimmers, fishermen, sailors it would be of little use. All the best: RichFarmbrough 21:14, 15 February 2021 (UTC).[reply]
Delete for usual reasons for ASSOC categories -- scope is so vague as to make inclusion a subjective issue. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:49, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this one is obvious - presumably since we're 80% water, we're all "associated" with it, but Peterkingiron also correctly mentions the usual subjectiveness of ASSOC categories. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This does not really link all the contents in an acceptable way. I am just glad no one has been placed directly in this category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's rationale: I'm open to other title suggestions, of course, but surely there has to be something less clunky than the current one. M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 03:01, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Purge as it is non-defining to Iranian and Indian empires that stretched into Afghanistan. Also at least do not write "countries" with capital C. No objection to deletion either. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:36, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This was created by Bvcitizen (who now wants to delete it). M Imtiaz then requested rename within an hour. Good Olfactory has added some parents today, so I've modified my !vote. William Allen Simpson (talk) 14:09, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support merge but then it should really be a manual merge. For example Emirate of Afghanistan is not about a former country but about a former form of state of an existing country. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:39, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and merge per Good Olfactories suggestion.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:42, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:University of Florida University of Florida College of Liberal Arts and Sciences alumni[edit]
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Nominator's rationale: I didn’t realize I made a typo until after I created the category. Made a new one with the right title. ThurstonMitchell (talk) 01:23, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Please tag the category page with {{Db-self}}. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Named military operations in World War II[edit]
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Merge Every Wikipedia article and category has a "name"; this isn't a meaningful breakdown. Sometimes we've used "individual" instead to clarify something is a set category but I don't think that's needed here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:57, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge, I am the editor that created this category. I now regret it and initiated the call to close it down — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pete unseth (talk • contribs) 2021-02-15 14:46:50 (UTC)
Merge the naming status is not a good way to sub-group.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The Hero of the Republic of Cuba was conceptually inspired by other communist "hero" awards but, in practice, was given out much more sparingly to 40 some recipients accordigng to the main article. (In contrast, the equivalent East German award has thousands of factory worker and farmer recipients.) The category currently consists of the following articles: Five high ranking Cuban officials (1, 2, 3, 4, 5), one high ranking Soviet official (6), three Soviet cosmonauts (7, 8, 9), one Cuban cosmonaut (10), two pre-revolutionary Cubans (11, 12) plus a group article on five cuban intelligence officers arrested in Miami (11-15). The one thing these articles all have in common is they mention this award in passing with other honours so it doesn't seem defining. I expanded the existing list of recipients located right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:36, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete -- certainly OCAWARD. I hope that the liste in the article is the entire content of the category, but have not fully checked. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It was originally incomplete but I added the rest of the category contents prior to nominating. - RevelationDirect (talk)
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Category:Recipients of the Order of Construction[edit]
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The Order of Construction is an Iranian award for building construction, economic development and civil engineering projects. If the articles in this category were full of construction company owners, building project managers and architects, this would likely be defining. However, 6 of the 7 articles were high ranking officials who backed construction projects as part of their political position and are all already under either Category:Government ministers of Iran or Category:Iranian governors. (The only exception is Abolghasem Mozaffari, a military leader whose article gives no hint as to why he won the award.) The articles in the category are about evenly split between those that mention the award in passing and those that don't mention it at all so it doesn't seem defining. There is already a list of the winners, most of which are redlinks, right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:36, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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