Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Warfare theater of Rudniki Forest

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. At this point, there is a clear consensus that this is not an appropriate subject for a standalone article, and no one has suggested where the article might be merged. If consensus arises as to an appropriate merge target in the future, that can certainly be facilitated at that time. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 12:56, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Warfare theater of Rudniki Forest[edit]

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The article name yields no results on Google Books and Google Scholar. It is a neologism and a clear case of original research with minimal content as well. Following WP:DEL-REASON, it's a case of number 6. Cukrakalnis (talk) 22:00, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, History, Military, Germany, and Lithuania. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:11, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~: I'm skeptical a proper WP:BEFORE search was conducted, considering a perfunctory search using a more accurate term returned this online source by Yad Vashem, as well as this book and this journal article. The article needs a rename, as the current name is an editor creation not reflective of reliable sources, but it is a bit misleading to state that a search returned nothing if you searched using an incorrect term. In addition, there are clear potential merge targets that have not been considered as WP:ATDs, such as Jewish resistance in German-occupied Europe and Jewish partisans. Curbon7 (talk) 22:26, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Curbon7 There are no articles on Wikipedia titled "Warfare theater of ..." That's clearly a neologism. The article's scope is unclear, while also being very much WP:OR, because there is no such thing as "Battle of Rudniki Forest", etc. in WP:RS. Cukrakalnis (talk) 21:01, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah obviously that was a unilateral page move made by a single editor. Curbon7 (talk) 23:27, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to a proper location as suggested above unless some serious sourcing can be added and the article written in something approaching proper format and style. If enough information is added, I can see changing to Keep if the action proves notable on its own. Intothat darkness 16:25, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weird title, there was of course warfare in Rudniki forest, it was one of the main partisan bases in the region, Soviet, Polish and Jewish partisans were stationing there for sure; and there was a Battle of Surkonty, but it already have an article. Since there is no much to merge really, I think we should delete Marcelus (talk) 21:22, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to a consensus target(s). It seems this is a poorly source fork, that could be much better covered in related articles. There are several viable options for a target, no reason it can't be adapted to more than one. This title is not a good candidate for a redirect, but if there is a consensus for one, I have no objection. // Timothy :: talk 21:56, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Some merge targets have been proposed, but there's no consensus for where the article should be merged to (if consensus results in a merge).
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Aoidh (talk) 06:20, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as noted, the title is citogenesis. Curbon7's references discuss actions in 1943, while the stub says "1944 and 1945" (which is probably in error, as it would have been anti-Soviet actions at that time). Just because there was partisan activity in this region doesn't mean it is suitable for a stand-alone article. Whatever actual information there is should be discussed in a differently-titled and scoped article - perhaps Resistance in Lithuania during World War II. Walt Yoder (talk) 15:58, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:58, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:34, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Does anyone have access to that Litai source, to check what is actually written there? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:40, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.