Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WKID 96.7 FM

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The result was no consensus. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:17, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WKID 96.7 FM

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Low-powered Part 15 radio station with no particularly strong evidence of non-local and/or non-temporary notability. (The claim that it's "known as the world’s only kid owned and operated FM radio station", for starters, is simply not verifiable anywhere besides the station's own promotional slogan, and even if it was true at one time it may not be now.) The article, furthermore, has been flagged as "appears to be written like an advertisement" since 2011, with virtually no discernible improvement — although it's not quite blatantly promotional enough to trigger my speedy reflex, it is fairly obvious that the article's core intention was to increase awareness of the topic outside of its own local market rather than to document a topic whose notability had already been properly established. The article does "cite" three sources, for example, but two of them are dead and unretrievable and the third is not sufficient to get the station past WP:GNG by itself. Wikipedia's rule for the notability of radio stations is that a station is not entitled to a presumption of notability unless it has a license from the relevant broadcasting regulator (the FCC in this case) — an unlicensed station can still become notable enough for inclusion if its sourcing and notability claim are really solid (we do, for example, have some very good, very well-sourced articles about pirate radio stations), but this article has not met that standard. As always, I'm willing to withdraw this nomination if someone can demonstrate that the article is salvageable with properly referenced content improvements, but in its current form it's a pretty clear delete. Bearcat (talk) 00:49, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 02:42, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 02:42, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Part 15 stations are non-notable per WP:NMEDIA. For the record, the "real" WKID is an FCC licensed station in Vevay, Indiana. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 15:32, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 18:25, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I read nothing in WP:NMEDIA that says that Part 15 stations are always non-notable, only that they are less likely to be so. I agree with Bearcat's assessment of the current article, but I was able to dig up a number of sources that do provide some content on the radio station's history. The Tampa Bay Times article (maybe not the same one the was a deadlink on the article) is here, and provides pretty decent coverage on the station's history and impact even as far away as Germany, which would be appropriate to include in this article. This article from Digital Journal is a bit more anecdotal, but does provide useful info about its budget and call-in policy. This press release from another station in Long Island is obviously less reliable, but it does state that they reached out to WKID for advice about how to get started on their own station run by kids. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 19:05, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: From WP:NMEDIA: "Pirate broadcasters, while not presumed notable, can have notability conferred on them by meeting WP:CORP standards." WKID 96.7 FM and all Part 15 stations are considered pirates regardless of the FCC rules. Most, if not all, part 15's get a visit from the FCC and are shut down. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 04:07, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 16:22, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I was all ready to vote delete, and the article needs trimming, but there is a case for bare notability here, its had some press coverage from legitimate news sites about being a kid-run radio station.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 04:25, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.