Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Facebook Four

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The result was redirect to 2017 Chicago torture incident. - I've also created the Facebook redirect too (non-admin closure) –Davey2010^Talk 23:53, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Facebook Four[edit]

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I am not convinced that there is sufficient evidence that "the facebook four" is a notable subject. ~~There is no article about the incident they were involved in, so it seems anomalous that they should have a dedicated article.~~ OK, strike the last part of that, as 2017 Chicago torture incident does exist, but I still do not see evidence that the "four" are notable independently of the incident itself. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 22:19, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

~~Speedy delete~~ this apparent good faith attempt by User:Progressingamerica to create article on topic already covered at 2017 Chicago torture incident. If Nom had seen that article, he could have just merged it into the pre-existing article. Thanks to @Progressingamerica: for your good faith attempt to create a new article on a notable topic.E.M.Gregory (talk) 02:23, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- I really don't do merges. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 05:32, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist ^{(Speak quickly)} _{(Follow my trail)} 02:39, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Note that in light of the attempt now underway to keep names of perpetrators off 2017 Chicago torture incident, this may be a WP:POINTY content.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:57, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I was not aware of the other article. It also was not linked into the main Facebook page either.(which you will see, I made a very small edit) Perhaps if the 2017 Chicago torture incident article contained the names of the perpetrators, it would have been easier to find. As to how to proceed, a redirect is probably the best way to go. Progressingamerica (talk) 14:32, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and Redirect: "2017 Chicago torture incident" is difficult for readers to find if they wish to read about this crime. With more redirects, it will be easier to find the article. I do not think this is WP:POINTY content, particularly as it does not name the perpetrators. --1990'sguy (talk) 14:31, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect with option ot merge any useful material to 2017 Chicago torture incident, which is inded a terrible search term (I had toruble finding article after reading about case and logging in to check if it had an article yet.)E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:46, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As an aside, I also recommend a redirect "Facebook torture incident, 2017." This article is incredibly difficult to find. --1990'sguy (talk) 17:43, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that Facebook torture incident, 2017 should be added as a redirect. I can't imagine anyone searching for the incident without using "Facebook" as a keyword.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:44, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is a good point. Once some of the pending issues are resolved, a rename of the article may be in order. {MordeKyle} ☢ 21:24, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect plausible search term and nothing new here that needs merging. AIRcorn (talk) 20:07, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. A search term at best. I have a feeling this term will not stick to this incident in the future. {MordeKyle} ☢ 21:26, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect there is no information in the Facebook Four that isn't already in the other article. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 21:36, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect plausible search term --Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:21, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect - Although I question why the other article is not at AfD, as the entire incident reeks of WP:SENSATION. -- Millionsandbillions (talk) 18:32, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It has been Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2016 Chicago torture incident. AIRcorn (talk) 23:01, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SNOW close.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:05, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect or just plain Delete as WP:CSD#A10: Duplicate topic to 2017 Chicago torture incident. We don't need a WP:NEOLOGISM launched for it. I don't see "Facebook Four" except on the CBS Chicago and its duplicate copies. If you do a Google search, "the Facebook Four" was used for different groups of people over the last 10 years in different articles. --Closeapple (talk) 03:00, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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