Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ted Carfrae

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete - fails WP:BIO as there's no independent coverage of him alone. As said below, notability is not contagious. KrakatoaKatie 01:43, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ted Carfrae[edit]

Non-notable record producer. While the article asserts that Carfrae has worked with a lot of big names, it does NOT assert that his work has been recognized independently. No awards. No independent press coverage. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:35, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Per above, it also seems to fail NPOV with a section calling him a "Pioneer".--SKATER ^T. 12:47, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
~~Weak~~ keep. ~~The article needs to be far, far, better referenced (right now I'm looking at Cilla Black's website, an industry advert, and an IP address that may or may not be MSN music).~~ Be that as it may, this is a producer who has worked with numerous notable musicians (and whose work has received awards, even if he hasn't per se). I'm hoping that the article creator (and sole contributor) will find more and better references. If they do, I may change my !vote to a 100% keep; if they don't, I'm afraid I'm going to be shifting to delete. Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 17:50, 15 May 2009 (UTC) (resigning after creator addressed concerns; I've changed my weak keep to a keep. This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 11:50, 18 May 2009 (UTC))[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – is notable through association with the artists he has produced. Plenty of refs out there to be had to prove it. The albums he produced sold fairly well; although he may not have won any awards for them directly, the artists may have, or at least have for other works. On these facts alone, I would say notability is attained. – B.hotep •talk• 18:29, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:29, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Notability isn't contagious. Drawn Some (talk) 01:02, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. —Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 02:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - As Drawn Some notes, notability isn't based on who they are associated with that is notable. Without significant coverage in independent, reliable sources, subject is not notable. لenna vecia 13:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - No reliable sources to establish notability. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:49, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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