Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tawuran
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Jenks24 (talk) 06:17, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Doesn't assert notability with reliable sources. Yutsi Talk/ Contributions 14:49, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 17:13, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 17:13, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, →Bmusician 01:37, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - per nom - thorough discussion not really required - an uncategorised, un sourced, anecdotal item SatuSuro 12:17, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Did you look at this revision of the article? Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 13:40, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- That is a good question - and yes the revision indicated - a single source (ie a thesis) is being promoted - with little corroboration from reliable 3rd party sources about the subject in Jakarta (the added references look like items referenced in the thesis) and it looks like a self promotion of a thesis/report - yet someone has chosen to remove the referenced material - see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tawuran&action=history - I would reconsider my delete support - if someone could explain what is going on (Rmb or whoever) SatuSuro 14:20, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The sources listed in the "further reading" section give some indication of notability of this subject (I took a look at the sociology paper and its sources). I might be off base here, but I'm guessing that the creator of the article actually has some expertise in this subject area. He or she became embarrassed about the article being tagged for deletion, and then blanked most of the content as "preparation" for what he or she saw as inevitable deletion. It's probably quite discouraging. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 15:48, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- That is a good question - and yes the revision indicated - a single source (ie a thesis) is being promoted - with little corroboration from reliable 3rd party sources about the subject in Jakarta (the added references look like items referenced in the thesis) and it looks like a self promotion of a thesis/report - yet someone has chosen to remove the referenced material - see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tawuran&action=history - I would reconsider my delete support - if someone could explain what is going on (Rmb or whoever) SatuSuro 14:20, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Did you look at this revision of the article? Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 13:40, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Issues at stake - Indonesia project has had a few articles in the last five years or more that are simply vehicles to carry an individuals academic work basically as self promotion - that is not what WP:ABOUT would say is an appropriate utilisation - however the subject would need corroboration in news reports as to the actual events - and the theories and refs that the author has utilised - may or may not be of relevance to such an article... And if it is any help the Indonesian wikipedia article has no WP:RS and is of no use to understanding the issue SatuSuro 12:16, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete with no prejudice for later, neutral recreation. Interschool conflicts are indeed a common thing to see here; one between two schools in Yogyakarta closed a major street in that city. As such, the subject may be notable, but requires rewriting from scratch. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:05, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete should never have come here WP:CSD#G11 blantant promotion, but since its here WP:NOT points to WP:SOAP. Gnangarra 23:57, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.