Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Somyot Srinuan

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The result was delete--Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 02:34, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Somyot Srinuan[edit]

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While this player a member of a team in a major league he (edit: appears to) meet the criteria of WP:NFOOTBALL ~~without question but~~ he seems fail the general notability guidline.

When searching his name in English Google returns next to nothing other than generic team rosters. The query ["Somyot Srinuan" -wikipedia] (without brackets) returns 28 results at the time of this AFD nomination, at least one of which is a toolserver tool. Bing doesn't do much better, with only 5 results for the same query. Searching for his name in Thai is much more successful with over 28,000 results on google, however most of the results seem to be a peripheral mention on various rosters. I can't seem to find any reliable source independent of the subject that gives significant coverage. No other wikipedias have any articles on him as far as I can tell, though the Thai wikipedia does have his name redlinked from the main Thailand Premier League title.

Due to this I don't think that the article has any significant chance of being expanded. As it stands right now there is nothing that couldn't be merged into either a list or into the main thailand premier league article. Looking at the creator's contribs it appears he created articles for most of the players on the team from the data on the team's website (such as on Prasit Kotmaha). I did note his account is indef blocked for unreferenced BLP stub creation. nn123645 (talk) 20:02, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Thailand-related deletion discussions. -- nn123645 (talk) 20:15, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. -- nn123645 (talk) 20:16, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:02, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 14:57, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - while I agree with the nominator that this article should be deleted, it is for exactly the opposite reason to the nominator. Saying that he "meets the criteria of WP:NFOOTBALL without question" because he is a "member of a team in a major league" shows absolute ignorance of the guideline in question, which states that "a player who...has not played in any games...is therefore not generally regarded as being notable" - basically, being on the roster is not enough, you have to actually play to become notable. Do we have any evidence that he has played in a fully-professional league? No. Therefore he actually fails WP:NFOOTBALL without question. Giant Snowman 15:05, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was under the impression that he has played in at least one game, though due to the lack of sources this isn't really verifiable. Sportal.com.au lists all the players on the team with ? in for the stats. --nn123645 (talk) 03:05, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If he has played in the Thai Premier League, then he has played in a "fully-professional league", meeting the notability requirements of WP:NFOOTBALL. It doesn't matter that he doesn't meet GNG if we can show he meets NFOOTBALL - which we can't. Giant Snowman 00:49, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The exact text of the relevant part of WP:NFOOTBALL is "Players who have appeared, and managers who have managed, in a fully-professional league (as detailed here), will generally be regarded as notable". Generally != always. Regardless we both seem to agree that the article should be deleted, so I guess it is a bit of a moot point. --nn123645 (talk) 02:38, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I agree with Giant Snowman, simply being a part of the team, without actually playing, does not give notability. With no sources to prove he has played a game, there is no proof of notability. Eddie6705 (talk) 17:43, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Giant Snowman and Eddie. --Kudpung (talk) 09:53, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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