Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Skyscrapers of Windsor, Ontario

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 21:20, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Skyscrapers of Windsor, Ontario

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I feel that this list is a bit on the redundant side when we already have List of tallest buildings in Windsor, Ontario. I also am not sure if it passes WP:LISTN and may even be a violation of WP:NOTDIR in that it's just a large directory of external links. Spiderone 23:11, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 23:11, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 23:11, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 23:11, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Just rename it List of notable buildings in Windsor, Ontario. The other article does not contain all of this information, and no blue links on any of its entries. Category:Buildings and structures in Windsor, Ontario Dream Focus 23:55, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But is this a notable topic? I've just blue linked all the List of tallest buildings in Windsor, Ontario that had articles so that list now has a navigational function as well. Listings in database websites like Emporis and Skyscraperpage do not provide evidence that the topic is notable. Also, I do not see any evidence that the topic 'skyscrapers in Windsor' has received significant coverage from reliable sources. Spiderone 10:19, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List articles have different rules than regular articles. Listing every building in that city that has its own Wikipedia article, along with valid information about it, makes it a valid list article. Dream Focus 10:59, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:LISTN says One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines; notable list topics are appropriate for a stand-alone list. The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been. Are there any sources discussing this as a group? Spiderone 11:12, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, one of the accepted reasons is there, but its not the only one. The bit after what you link to reads: There is no present consensus for how to assess the notability of more complex and cross-categorization lists (such as "Lists of X of Y") or what other criteria may justify the notability of stand-alone lists And it also reads: Lists that fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability. Editors are still urged to demonstrate list notability via the grouping itself before creating stand-alone lists. Hope that clears things up for you. Dream Focus 17:34, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe we could merge any valuable content with the tallest buildings article? I see no point in having two separate articles on tall buildings in this city. I also think most of the info in this article could be lost as I don't see any reason why we need Google Maps locations and bits of unsourced trivia which should go to the bin like In terms of amenities, it is well equipped, including a full sized salt water swimming pool, with 10 person jacuzzi, shower and change facilities with dry saunas, fully equipped gymnasium, and squash, racquet ball and basketball courts. The second floor amenities area also includes a common reading area with big screen satellite TV, and a games room with billiards and table tennis. Spiderone 10:31, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The rename above would be wholly inappropriate: many of the items in the list are just generic somewhat tall buildings that aren't particularly notable, and it of course doesn't include shorter buildings in Category:Buildings and structures in Windsor, Ontario. This largely duplicates the list, which could have a comments column if merged. Reywas92^Talk 20:21, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree Spiderone 10:32, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: buildings are not notably tall and city not known for tall buildings. // Timothy :: talk 08:18, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:TNT. Even if this medium-sized city were known for its buildings, the weasel words like "tall ... large" and just a series of in-line external links would require a total re-do. Bearian (talk) 21:02, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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