Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sindh Institute of Skin Diseases

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The result was keep. BD2412 T 03:55, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sindh Institute of Skin Diseases

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This article is about a pretty small local hospital and hasn't cited any sources since at least 2018. When I did a WP:BEFORE on it nothing came up except for some pretty trivial mentions in articles about skin diseases and passing mentions in the obligatory Covid-19 related articles that every hospital has. So, there wasn't anything that would qualify as in-depth coverage in multiple reliable sources and make it notable enough for WP:GNG or WP:NCORP. Also, according to some people in other AfDs hospitals are notable if they have over 500 beds and it doesn't even come close to that many. Adamant1 (talk) 21:48, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:17, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:17, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:17, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Dermatology hospitals are very unusual these days. None left in the UK. This is clearly not a local hospital. It's a national centre, enormous by dermatology standards, possibly the biggest left in the world, and almost certainly notable. Its clear that there are outreach services across the country. There will be articles in Punjabi and Urdu. Yes there are mentions in articles about skin diseases. Where else would you expect to find them? The idea that over 500 beds makes a hospital notable would only apply to general hospitals. Rathfelder (talk) 13:57, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - The hospital is neither small nor local. Express Tribune calls it "Sindh’s only skin hospital". Invisible Lad (talk) 19:23, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: In addition to the Express Tribune article cited just above, I also found a Dunya News article about the hospital. It appears to be very widely used, with 4,000 outpatients visiting daily. I think the "500 beds" applies to inpatient care; this hospital seems to mostly provide outpatient services. — Toughpigs (talk) 19:39, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, since it's a made up standard in the first place I don't see why you can't make up that it only applies to places that provide inpatient care. Even the standard is made up, I still think the number of beds is relevant to places that provide outpatient services though, as a judge of the facilities size. The number of people who visit it daily is ultimately inconsequential and meaningless to notability. Way more so then the number of beds would be if it was an actual notability standard. Just like the number would be inconsequential and meaningless to notability for how many people shop at my local Walmart per day, how many people visit my local doctors office per day, the number of students a community college has per semester, how many tourists visit an area per season, how many birds migrate to geographical location per year, how many cars drive down a road per year, how many sandwiches a restaurant makes per week, how many games are played at a stadium per season, etc etc. But hey, since your just making it all up on the fly anyway I'm sure all those things would be acceptable as standards for notability also. --Adamant1 (talk) 22:45, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, I am basing my keep vote on the coverage in the Express Tribune and Dunya News articles. Your theory about the importance of the number of beds in primarily outpatient facilities is noted. — Toughpigs (talk) 23:09, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your the one that brought it up. I have zero issue with the sources. Except maybe Express Tribune is a little weak sauce IMO, but I'll leave that up to others to decide. --Adamant1 (talk) 23:25, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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