Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Siege of Silves (1191)

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The result was redirect‎ to Almohad campaign against Portugal (1190–1191). Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:52, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Siege of Silves (1191)[edit]

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This article adds nothing that its parent (Almohad campaign against Portugal (1190–1191)) doesn't already have. It is all background, OR or fluff. This is a failed BLAR situation. A redirect to the parent is reasonable. Srnec (talk) 20:35, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related page for the same reason:

Srnec (talk) 20:36, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, History, Military, Morocco, and Portugal. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:49, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Almohads made a Campaign against the kingdom of Portugal and in this campaign there are battles and sieges it's quite normal. I do not see why the page should be deleted knowing that it provides more detail on its sieges and battles. Mrpf plus (talk) 22:00, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It does not provide more detail. That's why. It's a little puff piece. Maybe an article could be written, but this isn't it. The redirect should be restored until somebody writes an article that contains more detail than in the parent article. Srnec (talk) 01:02, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So the article only needs more detail? Mrpf plus (talk) 08:07, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

you should first verify the sources before deleting a page. Seniorjackfr (talk) 15:13, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The article doesn't meet WP:GNG. All the sources that are cited are nothing but mentions in passing of the capture of Silves (that's it). Everything else in the article is WP:OR and fluff. M.Bitton (talk) 18:35, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Almohad campaign against Portugal (1190–1191). MarioGom (talk) 14:41, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: This is a bundled nomination and we need to hear opinions about both articles.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:41, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Almohad campaign against Portugal (1190–1191). Not every military engagement is notabile for a standalone article and this information will be better off in the target due to context with a redirect. Lacks WP:SIGCOV addressing the subjects (both articles) directly and indepth. // Timothy :: talk 08:32, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.