Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shorties Watchin' Shorties

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The result was keep. Spartaz ^Humbug! 15:05, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shorties Watchin' Shorties

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A short-lived TV series on Comedy Central about shorties watching shorties. :) Joke aside, I don't think this show is notable. The article is poorly sourced, it contains the official CC website, IMDb and TV.com. None of those provide any reliability (the former is not independent and the latter two are databases which can be edited by anyone). I did a Google search and the results were not any better either. Amazon pages, TV Guide listings, other trivial mentions... Where is the notability? The Vulture page contained a tag with this show's name and I decided to check it out, in the hope that there is some reliable article on there. But nope, it was about the shows of Comedy Central where this one was mentioned. I found an article in the Dallas Observer with this title and I thought it was about the show - but nope, it was about some short film festival. The rest of the results were, like I said, Amazon pages, TV Guide listings and stuff like these. I don't see any notability around here. But prove me wrong. Maybe there are some reliable sources I am unaware of. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 08:46, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 08:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 08:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

~~Non-notable TV show. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 08:47, 30 May 2020 (UTC)~~ striking double nomination comment - Toughpigs (talk) 20:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as a failure of WP:GNG. I only found one source (from ScreenRant, a non-RS) and no sources that could take this past WP:GNG. Java Hurricane 09:05, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It aired on a national network, it meets the WP:GNG on that alone. Article doesn't really need further expansion and is fine in its current stub state. Nate • (chatter) 17:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nate:: Yeah, it aired on a national network. I don't doubt Comedy Central's notability, I doubt this show's notability. The article does not contain reliable sources and I haven't found one either. Can you provide some reliable sources (if you have) please? Because if there are no RS, I still think this show is not notable, even if it aired on a notable channel.GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 18:26, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Common outcomes are we usually keep television series that have aired at least one season on a national television network, especially a primetime series like this. This will at minimum not result in a deletion but a redirect to List of programs broadcast by Comedy Central. My reading of this article is that maybe one or two extra sources are needed, but the text is fine as-is and we don't need to have an episode list unlike most of these articles. Nate • (chatter) 18:51, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nate:: Yeah, I agree. It can live on as a redirect to said article, but it does not merit its own article. The text is fine indeed, it can be copied to "List of programs by Comedy Central" or whatever, but it is not notable for a stand-alone article. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 19:52, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:NTV and WP:NEXIST. It's typical for shows on national networks to be notable, because they get news coverage. Here's what I found so far:
- "Familiar comedians animate 'Shorties'" by Nick A. Zaino, Boston Globe (April 28, 2004)
- "Looking at Comedy Central’s Weird and Hard-to-Categorize One-Season Shows" by Liam Mathews, New York Magazine's Vulture (Sept 8, 2014) -- three paragrahps on Shorties Watchin' Shorties
- "Shorties Watchin' Shorties review" by Emily Ashby, Common Sense Media (2004)
- "Shorties Watchin' Shorties Returns on Comedy Central Oct. 28" by Sarah Baisley, Animation World Network (Oct 28, 2004)

I'll put these on the article as a "Further reading" section, so editors who want to improve the article can use them as sources. — Toughpigs (talk) 20:29, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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