Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sensor Tower

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 03:21, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sensor Tower

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No evidence of notability. All the last long tranche of refs are mentions by various organisations "we use their data" "this was downloaded from us.." type statements . The earlier refs all appear to be press releases or re-hashed press releases. I can't see anything both independent and reliable here. Was originally a rejected draft so the author simply moved it to main-space without review once the ten edit barrier was reached. Would have been much better to have stayed at Draft and improved it. Fails WP:GNG Velella ^{Velella Talk} 18:38, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:02, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:02, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:03, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —AE (talk • contributions) 11:23, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete yup, a whole lotta mentions and press releases don't make WP:NCORP Galobtter (pingó mió) 11:29, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete looks to me like native advertising. There now is a "media mentions" section, but it is only a list of outlets that once reported one way or another, and appears to be a carbon copy of the "SENSOR TOWER DATA IS REGULARLY CITED BY" on the company's website. Lordtobi (✉) 19:41, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 20:56, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all, I created a neutral page for Sensor Tower on Wikipedia because we're known as a research firm that is cited by many sources on Wikipedia and in the media. Some are from press releases, but many are not and that is because we're used as a source of app intelligence and information. We've been in business since 2013 and my inclusion of the media sources were used to show that we're frequently cited as a data source. If it's better to remove these, then I'm happy to do that. I'm aware that as an employee of the company, I have a COI, which I've noted in my talk section. I'll review the rest of the guidelines again to make sure that my relationship to the company is transparent. I'm not looking to pitch our company here on Wikipedia, but since it is a source of information, I wanted to give Sensor Tower a profile where users and those interested can review basic information on who we are, when we were founded, our founders, some history on how were we started, funding, and the names of our products - in a neutral way. This company information may be used to understand if we're a trusted source of information. Happy to edit or change anything that sounds otherwise. In the meantime, I'll continue to look for more information and sources to add to the profile that adhere to Wikipedia's guidelines.

I also researched some other articles that have cited Sensor Tower as a source on wikipedia and in the body of the text. Below are a sample of other companies or wikipedia users/editors who have cited Sensor Tower in their own articles. Sensor Tower is a source of information, like any market research firm, so it would be useful for other users to get background on who the company is, making it a notable source.

Wikipedia articles who mention Sensor Tower in the body of the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortnite_Battle_Royale, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_in_video_gaming, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Run

You really need third-party coverage to establish notability in the eyes of Wikipedia for purposes of having a stand-alone article. Just adding self-citing press releases and passing mentions in other articles doesn't really count. Nobody here is arguing against its inclusion in articles, so this argument is off-topic. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 20:56, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Galobtter @Lordtobi @Velella @—AE (talk @CAPTAIN RAJU @Dissident93: Posting a reply here in case it's easier to reference. I'm looking into the best way to communicate to editors on Wikipedia - talk page or on the page in question, thanks! ----Hi Dissident93, Thank you for your comment on the Sensor Tower page. The company has a lot of media sources that mention and cite us. We have a few 3rd party articles, but rather than news outlets writing about us, they usually use our platform as a source of data, we may not have the amount traditional 3rd party sources you're referring to. One of our competitors, App Annie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/App_Annie), has a wikipedia page, as well as Similar Web (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimilarWeb). I'm trying to understand how our page is different from theirs and why ours is marked for deletion. Can you give us feedback on that? I've focused on keep our page neutral because it would be valuable for users to see who we are when cited as a marketing intelligence platform. I appreciate your help. JuliaC298 (talk) 23:37, 12 September 2018 (UTC) Additional: We're looking at similar companies on Wikipedia, the standards set by the Wikipedia company, and doing our due diligence to ensure that the Sensor Tower page is represented in a neutral way. We are also looking to understand and to be treated fairly according to other similar companies whose Wikipedia company articles, like App Annie and SimilarWeb, which have been up longer than ours and not flagged for deletion. Previous editors mentioned there should be more content on our page when it was first set live, which I've added, with more context, and relevancy. We're not looking to be a storefront, only a place where a Wikipedia user who sees Sensor Tower referenced as a research firm, can look us up and understand who we are and the data provided for app data.JuliaC298 (talk) 01:09, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As stated on my talk page, I think those two pages you brought up could (maybe should) go to AfD as well, as I don't really see them having any real notability. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 06:21, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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