Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Red Serpent (2nd nomination)

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The result was no consensus. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:38, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Red Serpent[edit]

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Prevously deleted and recreated. Fails GNG and NFILM. Here are the sources from the article:

Film database: Red Serpent at KinoPoisk
Film database: Кино-театр.ру (2023-02-11). "Красный змей (2003): актёры и роли". kino-teatr.ru. Retrieved 2023-03-14.
Contributor review: Валерий Кичин (2003-04-08). "Медвежья болезнь". Российская газета. Retrieved 2023-03-09.
Youtube promotion video: BadComedian (2017-02-27). "Невский: Начало". YouTube. Retrieved 2023-03-09.
My firewall is blocking this site and says it is dangerous. Didn't proceed. Андрей Волков (2021-04-27). "Первый боевик Невского". Postcriticism. Retrieved 2023-03-09.

BEFORE in English and Russian showed, promotional material, database records, listings etc, nothing with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth from Ind RS. // Timothy :: talk 14:05, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film, Germany, and Russia. Shellwood (talk) 14:18, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Per nom. It has been deleted a little over a year ago, with pretty much the same concerns.
Mike Allen 14:32, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep reference 3 is a review by a notable film critic and the Postcriticism piece is significant critical commentary (I don't use a firewall and had no warnings or dire effects) imv Atlantic306 (talk) 01:31, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No evidence provided to show they are notable. Mike Allen 01:02, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Andrey Volkov is a professional Russian film critic, journalist, writer, author of RussoRosso, Darker, Postcriticism and others publications [1], [2], [3]. Берберов Иван (talk) 10:51, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was actually referring to Valery Kichin (journalist) who wrote the review in the third reference. Atlantic306 (talk) 23:42, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:16, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Let me just translate for y'all what I read in the firewall-suspicious source. "The Red Serpent" might not have been of interest if Alexander Nevsky's career as an action hero had not begun with him.... Bazhenov ridiculed the stupidity and cheapness of these films, but only thanks to his criticism did someone watch them. Suitskvarts (talk) 14:37, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So what? Берберов Иван (talk) 18:54, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That ia a short quote from the article. That a film has bad reviews is not a reason for deletion, indeed it shows that it has had independent criticism which in this case includes significant content, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 01:46, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 02:24, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep - IMHO, the fact that the film received bad reviews does not mean that it is not notable at all.ThegaBolt (talk) 18:55, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.