Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ramzan Muhammed

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 11:29, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ramzan Muhammed[edit]

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A contestant of a reality show who fails GNG. The subject has acted in numerous roles in some movies, but do not had any significant roles as of now and sources fails to establish WP:NACTOR. Also, the reliable sources provided are only just a review about the movies he was a part of. Other sources about the subject are unreliable ones like Bookmyshow and Imbd. This person do not have any significant coverage to establish notability, when considering him in other aspects.Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 03:19, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep : Actually, I don't understand how does it fails WP:ENT or WP:NMODEL?

1. He has significant roles in multiple television shows like Bigg Boss Season 3 and D 4 Dance.

2. As mentioned in the WP:ENTERTAINER notability criteria, he has a large fan base as well. This is his verified Instagram page and official verified Facebook page

3. I didn't use IMDb as sources/ reference here. I used book my show as reference for just a movie there. If Bookmyshow is not a good reference source, I'll definitely use another.

4. You can find Ramzans' Freebase or Knowledge Panel here.

5. The reliable sources (ref) given for Filmography session contains reviews about the movies he was a part of.The reviews too proves that he was a part of that film. I didn't add any other film sources contents for the rest of the article other than Filmography session. WikiShakeshere (talk) 06:42, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Strike: Confirmed sockpuppet of Phoenix man. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 02:35, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to WikiShakeshere:, the thing is that, we dont look whether this person has huge fan base or not. What we are looking is whether he has been covered in depth in multiple independet reliable sources. Can you specifically show here any sources which gives him significant coverage in depth? And this [1] was the IMBD source that I removed from the articlez which was added by you. You may also have a look at another similiar article which got deleted. [2]. The same points like he has a huge fan base and a fan army in social media was also brought up in this case also (not in this 2nd AFD). And just being a part of a film does not make anyone notable. He must have done some significant roles in some movies. You may have a look at WP:NACTOR also. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 07:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kichu : As per WP: NACTOR, the points which I mentioned above are valid.

1.Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions.

2.Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following.

As per WP: NACTOR, he has significant role in television shows and as per the second point of WP:NACTOR,he has large fan base too. WikiShakeshere (talk) 07:56, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WikiShakeshere, let the other users decide. Please come to my talk page. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 07:58, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and redirect to D 4 Dance which is the only claim to notability. Fails WP:NACTOR. GSS ^💬 08:29, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. No main roles in any of the listed movies. I could find any support for WP:NMODEL. Kolma8 (talk) 11:31, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - WikiShakeshere is WP:SPA. Kolma8 (talk) 11:33, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The number of followers on social media is not a reliable reflection of the notability of a person as it is possible to purchase followers via ads or black hat sellers, nor being contestant in a television show grant presumptive notability. The subject has not had significant roles in ~~any of the films he featured in~~ multiple notable films and thus doesn't warrant an article under WP:NACTOR. WP:GNG is also not met due to absence of significant news coverage. Umakant Bhalerao (talk) 15:30, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Uma, what are you saying actually? Both the social medias attached are verified with blue tick mark. Not only that, he has significant role in the mentioned films. In the movie Dance Dance, Ramzan is the main lead! Kidu Movie as well!! WikiShakeshere (talk) 16:06, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WikiShakeshere, we dont consider blue tick mark in social media as a criteria for notability here. We need reliable sources and I already told you in the talk page to learn about it in the first place. If every person with blue tick have an article, this encyclopedia would be fully filled with thousands of them (may be lakhs) Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 16:18, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom fails WP:GNG. Hulatam (talk) 17:56, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Blocked for UPE. MER-C 13:56, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
delete per all of the above. Everything has been covered, nothing new to add. —usernamekiran (talk) 18:44, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The article about the reality show participant Ramzan was created shortly after the person entered another Reality show called Bigg Boss Malayalam Season 3. As alleged earlier, this page seems to be clearly for promotional purposes, the sources are not sufficient and most of them are not reliable. Maybe it has been created by promotional agents or PR workers.The notability standards are also not kept, hence this page should be removed from Wikipedia as it does not suite it's basic criterion. AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 16:02, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep For some reason, this was put onto my watchlist, although I have not edited the article. The first five references are profile articles, that come from Instagram, apart from the one. He certainly fails WP:NACTOR, but there is quite a lot of coverage, possibly passes WP:SIGCOV, although it is the same content in most of them. It may be WP:TOOSOON though scope_creep^Talk 15:35, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BD2412 T 04:24, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Stated above. Fails WP:N. SenatorLEVI 07:31, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:NACTOR.4meter4 (talk) 15:32, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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