Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Property Shop

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The result was keep‎. ✗plicit 23:58, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Property Shop[edit]

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Article about a television show, not properly sourced as having any strong claim to passing WP:TVSHOW. This was created in good faith in 2009, a time when we essentially extended an automatic presumption of notability to any television series that was verifiable as existing regardless of the quality of its sources -- but that's long since been deprecated, and a television series now has to be shown to pass WP:GNG.
I've found very little sourcing of value on a WP:BEFORE search, however: I was able to replace the primary sourcing that this was formerly based on with one newspaper article about the show, but other than that one source I only found glancing namechecks of its existence in coverage of other things, such as other similar TV shows about other people and Tatiana Londono's later career ups and downs after this show ended, which might support a BLP of her as a person but doesn't establish the notability of this show as a show. Bearcat (talk) 20:09, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Canada. Bearcat (talk) 20:09, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Doyle, John (2008-07-09). "Big hair and a loud personality can take you only so far". The Globe and Mail. ProQuest 382724423. Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.
  The review notes: "So I watched The Property Shop , which is the vehicle for the allegedly original and startling Tatiana. Besides, the come-on from the PR machine and the existence of Tatiana raise an interesting question: What makes for a good TV personality? ... The Property Shop (HGTV, 8 p.m.) is all about Tatiana. The premise is that we watch as real-estate-agent-turned-broker Tatiana opens up her own agency and attempts to conquer the urban real-estate world in Montreal. ... Tatiana is all pep and vinegar, and charmingly certain that she is unique, a true star. In the first 60 seconds of the episode I saw, she makes the assertion about her hair and her boobs and coming to get you. ... Usually, with the sort of TV personalities who are part of the firmament that Tatiana wants to join, there's either a narrative about the personality or the personality is merely a bland facilitator who helps the narrative unfold."
2. Gravenor, J D (2008-08-09). "Real estate meets reality TV; Montreal agent Tatiana Londono stars in her own HGTV series - a "docu-soap" chronicling her rise in the real-estate world". The Gazette. ProQuest 434694385.
  The article notes: "Canadians across the country are now getting to know Londono, too, because of her documentary-style television show, The Property Shop, which airs three times a week on HGTV. ... But it takes a lot of video footage to make a 13-part, fly-on-the-wall reality series. So production crews tailed Londono for more than a year. Occasionally the camera penetrated her personal spheres, like the sanctuary of Londono's bedroom and the hospital room where her husband laid deathly ill. ... No, she's not shy. In fact, Londono came up with the idea of a TV show documenting her ballsy scramble to the top of Montreal's real-estate heap, taking on the big national firms and exploring the drama of wheeling and dealing. ... Episodes of The Property Shop debuted last month on HGTV. Now, the producers hope to find a home with the format they've worked out."
3. McDonough, Kevin (2009-01-08). "TV Guy: A 'Wake-Up Call' to help couples". Times Herald-Record. Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.
  The article notes: "Set in Montreal, the Canadian series "The Property Shop" (10:30 p.m., HGTV) follows real estate agent-turned-broker Tatiana Londono as she multitasks furiously under a helmet of golden ringlets. In this episode, she raises her kids, rents and renovates a new office, studies for her brokerage exam and attempts to land a slightly shady new client and sell his ugly property to dubious investors. With its emphasis on the "flipping" market, this import seems as if it's at least a couple of years old. The whole point of "Property" is to follow Tatiana, a sexy and slightly frazzled woman with a great sense of style, a youthful entourage and a flirtatious business manner. "Property" may not break any new ground in the real estate genre, but it shows off the slightly exotic Tatiana to her best advantage."
4. Newsome, Brad (2009-09-10). "Pay TV - Sunday, September 13". The Age. ProQuest 364293422. Archived from the original on 2024-05-15. Retrieved 2024-05-15.
  The review notes: "Here's an even less sympathetic protagonist, Canadian real estate agent Tatiana Londono. Theoretically it might be possible to feel sympathy for a real estate agent in certain circumstances — they've just been run over by a bus, perhaps — but tonight Londono succeeds in looking both ways before crossing the road. Londono explains that she's been making seven figures selling houses at an estate agency in Montreal but has decided to go into business for herself. She's determined to complain every step of the way, too. The vacant offices she looks at are crummy, her new clients don't know what's good for them and she has even less time to spend with her kids. Buyers and sellers remain stoic as they endure Londono's aggressive badgering."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Property Shop to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 07:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: In addition to Cunard's sources, I also found significant coverage in the Montreal Gazette: "Real Estate Meets Reality TV" (August 9, 2008). There is enough here to demonstrate notability. (It should be noted that the correct title is "The Property Shop". When this discussion closes, the page should be moved.) Toughpigs (talk) 15:47, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I hate such tiny stubs, but as far as notability is concerned, sources provided above (and I found a few more via WPLIBRARY) are sufficient. SIG coverage from multiple major independent and reliable outlet exists. X (talk) 01:06, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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