Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PrivacyTools

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The result was delete as most editors feel the provides sources do not satisfy WP:PROUDCT. Barkeep49 (talk) 04:07, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

PrivacyTools[edit]

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Most sources are unreliable or non-independent. All RS give only passing mention, fails WP:SIGCOV. From AnUnnamedUser ^{(open talk page)} 04:28, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. From AnUnnamedUser ^{(open talk page)} 04:28, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. From AnUnnamedUser ^{(open talk page)} 04:28, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I've expanded this article with more relevant information and references and removed all unreliable sources. Jonah Aragon ^|Talk| 05:34, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment OK. I want to highlight the sources that the sources #2, #3, #9, and #11 are self-published by the company and fail WP:GNG. The other sources only have about three sentences describing the site: do they pass WP:SIGCOV? See WP:WEBCRIT, which states that a brief summary of the nature of the content or the publication of Internet addresses and site is trivial coverage, and WP:SIGCOV, which states that "Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Note that there are 5 sources given that don't fail the independent or reliable metrics, or obviously don't fail the significant coverage part. From UnnamedUser ^{(open talk page)} 19:18, 13 November 2019 (UTC) Edit: From UnnamedUser ^{(open talk page)} 23:21, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for your feedback, it is actually very helpful for me. The self-published sources were included to back up some facts in the article and not to establish notability, which I think seems acceptable (WP:PRIMARYCARE), but you are right that it isn't applicable for this discussion. #1 is a research paper on privacy tools and recommendation portals, and looks into privacytools.io in three separate sections, so while it isn't the main topic of that paper I think it meets WP:SIGCOV. #6 mentions PrivacyTools in three separate paragraphs, and in each one details the criteria the site uses to make its recommendations in different software categories (which I think is more than merely a passing mention or a brief summary). #5 I'm on the fence about, it brings up the site in 3 separate paragraphs as an authority on VPN providers, but it mostly seems to be referring to sites like PrivacyTools in general, so I don't know if it's specific enough. When I have another moment I will reevaluate the other sources to determine if they establish notability, and I'll try to find more sources that cover the website in-depth. Jonah Aragon ^|Talk| 21:28, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: See if the Keeps can provide the RS needed to prove GNG
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance (talk) 18:18, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:40, 24 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Source #1 does not constitute significant coverage. PrivacyTools appears once in a table, alongside a long list of other websites, with a brief one-sentence summary. It appears in another table which lists the basic features of a number of similar websites. It then appears as short section (about 30 words) later on. For a 62 page paper, that does not constitute significant coverage. Source #6 is primary - the author, Jonah, describes himself as the administrator of PrivacyTools; the first paragraph contains the phrase at PrivacyTools we recommend.... Source #5 is not significant coverage: it is only mentioned three times and even here, the article is talking about what PrivacyTools recommends, rather than about the website itself. Source #4 is probably the closest to establishing notability but is still not enough. I have had a look myself but cannot find any sources with more than a namecheck. WJ94 (talk) 15:41, 24 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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