Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Open Rails

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The result was delete. Courcelles (talk) 01:36, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Open Rails

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Non-notable software project. Prod denied based on the comment "now notable", but the only change was the addition of two references that did not mention this software at all. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:13, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have updated article to add thirdparty references related to the industry now, so now it should not be deleted. --114.77.8.137 (talk) 14:10, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The references added are to forums, not to reliable sources. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:16, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - I have added even more sources, two are highly regarded websites in the train simulator community, and another forum which has a poll that prooves that over 100 people are "Strongly Interested" (I don't know how a poll even if it is on a forum could not be considered a 'reliable source'). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.77.8.137 (talk) 14:36, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Comment Of the new sources added,
      - http://msts.steam4me.net/# is a press release from the organization itself
      - http://www.tsnz.co.nz/ is a duplicate of the Steam4Me announcement
      - http://www.warts-n-all.com/viewtopic.php?f=324&t=105354&start=45 is yet another forum
    - None of these constitutes significant coverage in independent sources. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:45, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - The steam4me.net is not a press release from the organisation itself, it has a post:

"3 December 2009 New Simulator In Preparation Wayne Campbell, who avid MSTS fans will know as the creator of the super-detailed London and Port Stanley route has commenced work on an MSTS-compatible open source train simulator called Open Rails. Whilst still in alpha release, it's a credit to Wayne and his team that routes and rolling stock are already working in this new simulation. Exciting news indeed as we witness the gradual wind-down in availability of MSTS disks. Click on the link above to have a look or download the working alpha release. (Visitor count today is 2,749,500}"

There is also a Release Announcement dated 27 May 2010, almost 6 months later, on the same page, which might be what you are referring to as a "Press Release" when this is not a "Press Release" as it has not been released or intended for the Press, it is a Release Announcement for a software product, it is a very big difference (One if Marketing, and one if Informational). --114.77.8.137 (talk) 16:13, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. (Search video game sources) • Gene93k (talk) 17:35, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:35, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:35, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I wish the project well, but if there's no coverage of it beyond forums and community sites, then it won't be included in WP. Marasmusine (talk) 17:45, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete not notable, no refs in WP:V or WP:RS. GregJackP Boomer! 20:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete -- Like User:Marasmusine I couldn't find anything but forums and fansites; nothing that is a reliable source. Still, I wish these folks the best, too. It certainly looks interesting, but unfortunately just doesn't have the coverage to stay at Wikipedia. --Teancum (talk) 15:32, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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