Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nima Rahizadeh

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:09, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nima Rahizadeh

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Fails notability, the guy actually exists but those info showing him winning an Asian Games silver or an Asian Cup gold is completely false. he is just a bench player in some non-notable team. never played for the national team. absolutely non-notable. Sports2021 (talk) 03:21, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sports, Basketball, and Iran. Sports2021 (talk) 03:21, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:23, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:54, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:59, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep.He is a member of a famous team, even if he is on the bench, which doesn't seem like it, because in the game of basketball, even if you are in the game for one minute, you are considered famous. Also, he is in the Iranian national basketball team. If he is not a famous player, he should not have been invited to the Iranian national team.whose news link is also from a reliable Iranian news agency. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.7.122.182 (talk) 11:45, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry but you can't lie here to keep this article. by throwing Persian links hoping other people will not understand it. that article you posted says the guy was invited to the Youth (u16) national team. you failed to say that's a youth team. (and even if that was the senior team, just being invited is not enough) this guy is a total nobody. Sports2021 (talk) 12:52, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  Sorry for your thought, I did not create this article.I speak according to reliable sources.Is deleting this article personal for you? As far as I know, there is no copyright on Wikipedia and no one can blame someone for expressing their opinion.You don't consider Iranian sources as valid, how about foreign sources This source even mentions the number of points they have earned. 31.7.122.187 (talk) 16:13, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  I apologize for my bad pronunciation, my English is very bad 31.7.122.187 (talk) 16:14, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Almost all of the content of Wikipedia is licensed for reuse under very liberal terms, but it is a mistake to say "there is no copyright on Wikipedia"; there certainly is. You may see further information on this at Wikipedia:Copyrights, if you wish to. However, I'm not at all sure why you have mentioned that, as nothing written on this page had anything to do with copyright. Also, you said "You don't consider Iranian sources as valid", but Sports2021 has not said that at all. What he said (rightly or wrongly, I have not checked) is that the source does not say what you said it does. That is completely different from saying that the source is not reliable. JBW (talk) 16:35, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, you have misunderstood my meaning. The user stated that I insist on keeping the article because I wrote it, that this statement was wrong.Because I am not the author of this article, this person is an Iranian who, according to Persian language sources, is in several Iranian basketball teams.And in the source I posted above, he has even played for Iran's under-16 national team.Even in this source borna news, it is mentioned that this person has won the third place with the basketball team and is also known as the most technical player. 31.7.122.187 (talk) 17:01, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

However, I only expressed my personal opinion according to the review. The decision to keep or delete the article is with the respected administrators 31.7.122.187 (talk) 17:03, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

you really think people don't try google translators, don't you? you are saying:

he has even played for Iran's under-16 national team this source borna news, it is mentioned that this person has won the third place with the basketball team and is also known as the most technical player.

anybody who reads this may think he won a bronze medal with Iran U16 team (which is still not notable enough) but his achievement is not even that! again you failed to say he won 3rd place in Iran schoolboys championship, the whole article is a complete lie, none of those achievements are correct. he never won the Iranian league, he never played a single minute for the national team, let alone winning medals in William Jones Cup, Asian Games and Asian Cup! Sports2021 (talk) 18:05, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I was not intending to comment on this article or its nomination: I just posted my message above in the hope of helping the IP editor by clearing up some misunderstandings. However, having seen the disagreements about what the Persian sources say, I decided to check them, again with the intention of helping to clarify things, not to join the deletion debate. What I found surprised me, because it was far further than I expected in the direction of misrepresentation rather than misunderstanding. "...he has even played for Iran's under-16 national team. Even in this source borna news, it is mentioned that this person has won the third place with the basketball team" would I believe, convey to any reasonable person the impression that he has personally "won the third place" with Iran's under-16 national team. In fact the cited source is a report of the performance of a provincial high school basketball team, which came third in a national competition. In an earlier post by the same editor, we were told that "he is in the Iranian national basketball team". Sports2021 has already pointed out that this refers to the national youth team, not the Iranian national basketball team; furthermore, the cited report (originating from a member of the Young Journalists Club) says that Nima Rahizadeh is one of two players from Hormozgan province who were invited to the preparation camp for the youth national team. I cannot determine exactly what the status of that "preparation camp" is, but I am not sure that being invited to the preparation camp is the same as being selected for the team. So, on investigation the apparent evidence of notability has evaporated: from apparently being a member of the national basketball team, he moved to apparently being a member of the national under-16 team, and now he has moved from there to actually being a member of a regional high school student team who has been invited to a training camp for the national under-16 team. Absolutely nowhere remotely near to notable by Wikipedia's standards. JBW (talk) 20:47, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.