Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Netherlands Royal Shooting Sport Association
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 22:10, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
Netherlands Royal Shooting Sport Association[edit]
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No refs on the page for many years. I'm not a speaker of Dutch but I can't find anything which would appear to meet the notability standards on en.wiki JMWt (talk) 19:20, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions. JMWt (talk) 19:20, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Sports. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 20:00, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. Governing associations for the sport of shooting are usually quite old. According to the nl:wiki page its membership was recently over 40,000. Should be easy to source for a Dutch speaker. @Gidonb might have an in-road here? Geschichte (talk) 22:11, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- The problem here, however, before considering notability, is that this is a dictionary definition, not a proper article. If it was an article, we should have looked for sources and notability. This is so short that it should be merged, redirected, or deleted regardless of notability. In this case deleted, as the organization is loosely affiliated with three coalitions of which none takes preference over the other. gidonb (talk) 22:29, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- Doesn't the Netherlands have an encyclopedia where this would be covered? Geschichte (talk) 11:31, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Referring you to my answer above this question. gidonb (talk) 12:27, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- And I refer to your saving of a Belgian 8th-tier football club, whose article initially looked doomed in the AFD discussion. I'll try to post another question then: "if I were to look for an encyclopedia of an unnamed sports governing body in the Netherlands, would there exist such an encyclopedia?" Geschichte (talk) 16:03, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- To the best of my recollection there are or were books in this general domain on Google Books. And yes, the turnaround at K.F.C. Moerbeke was something! Maybe Ruud can save this one. I need to see some substance before considering notability. Otherwise, I will support delete or an ATD. For me, to change my position, adding sources is insufficient. gidonb (talk) 18:46, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- And I refer to your saving of a Belgian 8th-tier football club, whose article initially looked doomed in the AFD discussion. I'll try to post another question then: "if I were to look for an encyclopedia of an unnamed sports governing body in the Netherlands, would there exist such an encyclopedia?" Geschichte (talk) 16:03, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Referring you to my answer above this question. gidonb (talk) 12:27, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Doesn't the Netherlands have an encyclopedia where this would be covered? Geschichte (talk) 11:31, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- The problem here, however, before considering notability, is that this is a dictionary definition, not a proper article. If it was an article, we should have looked for sources and notability. This is so short that it should be merged, redirected, or deleted regardless of notability. In this case deleted, as the organization is loosely affiliated with three coalitions of which none takes preference over the other. gidonb (talk) 22:29, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
*Delete without any prejudice per gidonb right above. gidonb (talk) 22:29, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I added new info and references. This is the Dutch equivalent of USA Shooting. A national olympic sport coordination body is surely notable. One of the issues with the article was a title misnomer. The dutch name was not correctly translated. I fixed that, making use of an english text (see reference) with the correct english name.Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 03:47, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Pretty surprised to see that there are articles about Dutch governing bodies for bridge and water skiing, but not skating! Geschichte (talk) 09:24, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, please review content additions since this article's nomination. Also, please do not move articles in an open AFD discussion, it really complicates the discussion closure. If this article is Kept, you can move it as soon as this closes.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:32, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Ruud and myself, now that the article has been expanded. gidonb (talk) 02:26, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
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