Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael K. Obeng

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The result was no consensus. ‑Scottywong | [squeal] || 22:08, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Michael K. Obeng[edit]

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PR from an undeclared paid editor. Fails WP:PROF--just one publication; the references are basically press releases. The reason there are so many is they are copies of the same PR published in multiple papers. Most of the pr is because he has operated on some celebrities like most plastic surgeons in his geographic area. . Minor charitable work, man 1press release references to it. DGG ( talk ) 18:15, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is significant coverage and mentions in well know publications. I also feel that being the FIRST black surgeon in Beverly Hills is very significant. Expertwikiguy (talk) 09:08, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

He isn't the only black surgeon in Beverly Hills and he isn't even the only black plastic surgeon in Beverly Hills. See here and here. Which really makes me wonder about the credibility of the single source stating this information as fact. Praxidicae (talk) 12:19, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Praxidicae I am sorry, I need to correct what I said. The article said that he is the "FIRST" black surgoen in BH, but the Wiki page has no such claims anyway. I have revised my statement I made earlier. Also the 2nd link you send is in LA, not BH, but very close to BH. Also i do feel there are some promotional statements in this article. I will see if I can revise them. Expertwikiguy (talk) 17:47, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete when an article is based on sources that make flase claims, the article becomes suspect. Even if he was the only black platic surgeon in Beverly Hills, I am unconvinced that would be a sign of notability. The fact that people are falsely claiming he is is a disturbing trend and probably shows signs such is overly promotionalist and maybe even deliberately false advertising.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:45, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:21, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:21, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

'Keep' I have read this article twice and I don't find any promotional content in it. This is 100% informative article which contains tons of information and 0 promotional content. And when it comes of it being paid editing I don't feel so as the depth of information given can only be given when it is written by the person himself. Author Sanju (talk) 18:40, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Article does not claim he is only black plastic surgeon in Beverly Hills. Doesn't overhype the fact that he was included in the top 100 list of notable black persons in 2020. Was also noted in such credible sources as Variety, eonline, Black Enterprise, deadline, etc. He seems to be a well accomplished African American and should remain.TruthLover123 (talk) 22:55, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Accomplished African-American surgeon in Beverly Hills, and is on Variety, Black Enterprise, Deadline, Ebony, etc. Looks quite notable for a black surgeon. Batmanthe8th (talk) 04:26, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Needs more policy-based discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 02:19, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: the reason for deletion is primarily Promotional content by undeclared page editor. not notability, though I doubt that also. I however do question the meaning of "Looks quite notable for a black surgeon". [[User::Batmanthe8th|

Batmanthe8th]], are you sure that this wording is what you want to say? DGG ( talk ) 04:41, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep Is mentioned in some popular items, "Forehead reduction surgery"... but also noted in some titles for awards recieved and his charity efforts in Africa. Deathlibrarian (talk) 06:56, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I hope I am writing in tbe right section. I am trying to apologize as I am friends with an ex-patient of the doctor who did some amazing work for him. I did pay someone by mistake to help tbe article without knowing it was not allowed. I'm really sorry but why are there so many people online who say they do that? Anyway I guess they wrote stuff that was too promotional sounding but it looks like a lot of people who saw this helped fix it. The doctor did not know about it and should not have his page deleted which has been edited by a lot of people over many months.I really want to fix this please. If there is anything else that needs to be removed please let me know and I will get advice as to how to take it out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NewbieGuy1 (talk • contribs) 22:56, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Well then the article needs to be cleaned up and all the promotional fluff removed by the Wikipedia community, but my personal assessment is that this Obeng should notable enough regardless of whether there is a COI or not. Batmanthe8th (talk) 18:35, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per the nom. Fails WP:GNG due to a lack of sustained WP:SIGCOV in independent reliable sources. Just a WP:RUNOFTHEMILL doctor who does a little charity on the side, as do countless others, only he has repetitious press releases to. Newshunter12 (talk) 19:37, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:18, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I find it odd that three of the five "keep" votes so far are from editors who have only begun editing Wikipedia within the past few months. That is a very unusual pattern of participants in an AfD. BD2412 T 00:25, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
'Comment' his sources: Variety, Black Enterprise, Deadline, Ebony all have their own Wikipedia pages. Ebony has been in business 74 years, and nominated him this year as one of the top 100 most notable black people in the world. He was also covered by AOL, Inside Edition, and MSN. Aol, and MSN are also considered noteworthy enough to keep this Wikipedia article. Aol, Inside Edition and MSN are also considered noteworth enough to have their own wikipedia pages. A great portion of the medical community in Beverly Hills, especially for elective surgeries, was basically shut down for many months due to the Covid-19 threat. The virus would also significantly slow down any of the doctor's philanthropic work due to lack of funding and individual's fears about contracting it Author Sanju (talk) 13:21, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- You already voted. This isn't vote early, vote often. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:15, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I am not seeing sustained coverage of this WP:MILL figure. (t · c) buidhe 21:42, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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