Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mathieu Chantelois

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. No one advocates deletion after a week of discussion. --BDD (talk) 18:08, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mathieu Chantelois[edit]

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Procedural nomination; the situation is that somebody using the name User:Mathieu Chantelois recently blanked everything in this article with the exception of the very first sentence. I'm not sure what the reasoning is — it could be personal privacy concerns, it could be an accuracy dispute (although the content is properly sourced), it could be somebody else impersonating him to cause problems, or it could be somebody else of the same name who dislikes the association. But as a good faith gesture, I'm putting this up for discussion nonetheless — particularly because if there is any valid reason to strip the article down to its first sentence alone, then it wouldn't even be making a valid or sourced notability claim anymore, and the article thus would have to get deleted anyway. No opinion. Bearcat (talk) 17:40, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 17:51, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is no basis for the "procedural nomination," since the user who adopted the username same as the subject and who blanked the article, did not start the article. It was started in 2006 by Bearcat, who has nominated it for deletion. Many other editors have contributed to it over many years of its being in the encyclopedia, so blanking by someone claiming to be the subject is not a compelling basis for deletion, any more than is a deletion request from the article creator. The subject was featured in one reality show, then had his own TV show, and has done several other activities which have gotten him mention or substantial coverage in books and other sources, such as "The queer encyclopedia of film & television. Since the deletion nomination did not present a valid basis for deletion, and there is no basis for speedy deletion, it appears that the AFD could be procedurally closed. If the AFD runs the normal period, then the article should be kept as the subject appears to satisfy WP:BLP. Certainly and poorly sourced or unsourced statements should be removed per WP:BLP. A subject of an article might do better with an OTRS request than by blanking an article if some of the info is incorrect. If the article is unbalanced or does not have a neutral point of view, there is the article talk page or the BLP noticeboard. We have no real way of verifying that it was the subject who blanked the article. Edison (talk) 18:47, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, just for the record, the other reason why I opted to go this route is that while he does have enough sourceable notability to qualify as an article topic, he also isn't really so famous that we necessarily need to maintain an independent article about him. Even most of his other castmates on The Lofters don't actually have their own separate articles, but rather simply have their names mentioned in the main article on the show itself — the only other Lofters who actually have their own separate articles are the ones who, for one reason or another, stayed in the public eye after the show ended. Everybody else besides Mathieu for whom The Lofters itself is the only substantial notability claim is considered a WP:BLP1E, and just gets mentioned in the show's article without being given their own separate bio — and thus it's certainly worth considering that maybe we don't actually need anything more than that about Mathieu either. Our content rules were still being made up as we went along when I first created this, and BLP policy in particular has tightened up a lot since then — so I believe that there may be a valid case to be made that he now falls into that class of people who don't really need to have their own standalone bios anymore.

And for the record, the blanking took place a full week ago and wasn't caught by anybody until I noticed today that the number of articles in Category:LGBT people from Canada had gone down — meaning that somewhere between "not enough people" and "nobody whatsoever" had it watchlisted at all; even I didn't until after I reverted the blanking. So even if the consensus does end up being to keep the article, it needs more eyes on it than it has right now. Bearcat (talk) 20:59, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - per reasons given by Edison. AuthorAuthor (talk) 20:41, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 23:59, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:40, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.