Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marin Marić
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Lord Roem ~ (talk) 07:53, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Marin Marić[edit]
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Appears to fail WP:NBASKETBALL. SportingFlyer T·C 08:32, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. SportingFlyer T·C 08:32, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Croatia-related deletion discussions. SportingFlyer T·C 08:32, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:07, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: A case could be made for ANYBIO1 for being MVP in a top-flight professional basketball league, even if said league doesn't make its players notable just for playing in the league, but one more week of discussion should be enough.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ミラP 02:12, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Relisting comment: A case could be made for ANYBIO1 for being MVP in a top-flight professional basketball league, even if said league doesn't make its players notable just for playing in the league, but one more week of discussion should be enough.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ミラP 02:12, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Failing to find multiple sources of significant coverage from independent sources to meet WP:GNG. The best I could find was one from College Basketball Talk. He was a two-time third-team All-MAC,[1] if that helps others research. Contrary to the relisting comment, WP:ANYBIO is not met merely by winning an MVP unless there is evidence that league's award is "well-known and significant", or that its a "widely recognized contribution" in the field of basketball.—Bagumba (talk) 13:02, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Bagumba: I didn't say it met ANYBIO1, just that it was possible. "Possibly" and "without a doubt" are different things. ミラP 16:26, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine: Apologies if it sounded like I was implying that you were making the case. What I meant was that if anyone were to make the case, I wouldnt find ANYBIO to be met without evidence that this league's MVP award was notable. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 16:49, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- I have expanded the article and have found a few sources [2] [3]. A bit more digging should produce plenty more. DaHuzyBru (talk) 18:09, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Comment on 247 site I generally don't consider fan blog sites like 24/7 reliable. For the author RadioDePaulSports, their profile shows "Member Since October 2014 Posts 67". Not reliable.—Bagumba (talk) 10:49, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- I have expanded the article and have found a few sources [2] [3]. A bit more digging should produce plenty more. DaHuzyBru (talk) 18:09, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine: Apologies if it sounded like I was implying that you were making the case. What I meant was that if anyone were to make the case, I wouldnt find ANYBIO to be met without evidence that this league's MVP award was notable. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 16:49, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Weak delete. After looking, the MVP award is actually "of the week", so it's not much compared to the Pro Basketball League MVP. ミラP 16:29, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Week keep But then again, GNG sources have turned up since the last time I was here. ミラP 04:55, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Weak keepKeep Has played in the Turkish Basketball Super League and Basketball Champions League – both equal to if not higher prestige than the Italian or Greek leagues which are listed at WP:NBASKETBALL. DaHuzyBru (talk) 17:50, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- But neither of them are listed at WP:NBASKETBALL, and the coverage of him is all routine. SportingFlyer T·C 22:55, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Passes GNG with NBC Sports and Daily Chronicle reliable sources. Also the subject passes WP:ANYBIO#1 for being the Most Valuable Player of the week for the Pro Basketball League
The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times.
. Lightburst (talk) 23:26, 5 November 2019 (UTC) - Keep Meets GNG with NBC Sports and Daily Chronicle. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 16:01, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- There's no way in my mind that NBC Sports story isn't routine - it's four grafs long, barely covers him, and is a routine transfer announcement. I'm much more swayed by the fact I can't find much of anything in Croatian news either - there's a couple routine transfer announcements places like RTL.hr and sportklub.hr, and a couple mentions of him in game reports, but he doesn't pass WP:GNG. SportingFlyer T·C 03:00, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Seems that a lot of the !keeps here are using an extreme interpretation of "multiple sources" to mean plain ol' 2 sources.—Bagumba (talk) 04:21, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- The NBC source in non-trivial and focusses on the subject. Regarding sources, one source can be sufficient according to WP:N
There is no fixed number of sources required since sources vary in quality and depth of coverage, but multiple sources are generally expected.
Multipleconsisting of, including, or involving more than one
. Merriam Webster. GNG is met. Lightburst (talk) 04:36, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- As I said, it's an extreme interpretation. Per Wikipedia:Five pillars:
The principles and spirit matter more than literal wording ...
—Bagumba (talk) 09:30, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, but maybe you didn't read the best one. WP:5P5 Lightburst (talk) 23:48, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- As I said, it's an extreme interpretation. Per Wikipedia:Five pillars:
- The NBC source in non-trivial and focusses on the subject. Regarding sources, one source can be sufficient according to WP:N
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