Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Malians in Sweden

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 13:43, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Malians in Sweden

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yet another crufty x in y article, poorly sourced and can be covered in the relevant immigration article. PRAXIDICAE🌈 17:06, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete nothing to suggest that the topic is notable. Theroadislong (talk) 17:07, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I am not offended by anthing, nor do I mean to argue, be rude, or violate any Wikipedia guidelines, but I do not feel the need for this article to be deleted because I believe this is essential information, and I believe people need to know that there are Malians who live in Sweden. AmericanEditor350 (talk) 17:08, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You simply aren't listening - multiple editors, I count at least six are telling you not only are your sub stubs useless but they're also outright wrong and not appropriate as standalone articles. PRAXIDICAE🌈 17:11, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am listening, please understand where my heart is at. Wikipedia's guidelines can be a little complicated for me to understand sometimes. AmericanEditor350 (talk) 17:21, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"stop doing this disruptive thing" is not a guideline and it isn't confusing, if you don't understand what this means, no one can really help you. PRAXIDICAE🌈 17:26, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not trying to be disruptive. AmericanEditor350 (talk) 17:30, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Ethnic groups, Africa, and Sweden. Shellwood (talk) 17:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as lacking significant coverage in reliable sources. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:39, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I unfortunalely would disagreee with you, sir. One reliable source is good enough. AmericanEditor350 (talk) 18:04, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Except you're wrong and the source doesn't support the bulk of the content, but keep digging this hole. PRAXIDICAE🌈 18:10, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but no. See WP:SIGCOV. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:35, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - as per the others of the same ilk. WP:OR which fails WP:GNG by a long way. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 18:45, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: ~~This article seems like it could be notable as a list of notable Malian-Swedes if pared down to just the list and retitled.~~ TartarTorte 19:50, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Really? AmericanEditor350 (talk) 20:17, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Upon further research no. There isn't enough discussion about Malian-Swedes to pass muster of WP:LISTN anyways. I thought that could be a way to salvage, but I was mistaken. Sorry about that. If you can find anything to help show that a list of Malian-Swedes would pass WP:LISTN which would require reliable sources talking about Malian-Swedes as a group then it will work. I guess there's the possibility to incubate that in draft/user space. TartarTorte 20:27, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly, I think it's better off as a draft. AmericanEditor350 (talk) 20:31, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And I know there is a very small population of Malians who live in Sweden, therefore it may be harder. AmericanEditor350 (talk) 20:33, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify: Per WP:ATD-I and after discussion with the original page author above, it seems like draftifying and allowing more time to find sources, especially Swedish sources, which might help show notability. While I have not been able to find enough to have it meet WP:GNG, it seems like incubation is a good alternative to deletion in my mind. TartarTorte 20:42, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Given the behavioral problems surrounding this and the evident lack of sourcing, I do object to draftification. See the related ANI thread. PRAXIDICAE🌈 20:43, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, @Praxidicae, I had not seen the ANI thread until now. While salvaging could be possible with Swedish language sources, due to the ANI thread and the other similar articles, it seems there is not a compelling argument for WP:ATD-I and I did not see a route forward with any other ATDs. I see no other option than delete. TartarTorte 20:49, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – like the articles on Senegalese and Ghanian people in Sweden, this is a mess of original research and imagined claims based on a data base that doesn't provide the information the page creator imagines it does. --bonadea contributions talk 23:26, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non notable article with no refs indicating notability. VickKiang (talk) 23:46, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails GNG, & WP:NOTSTATS Atsme 💬 📧 00:44, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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