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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎. Liz Read! Talk! 02:38, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Louis Morneau[edit]

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WP:BLP of a filmmaker, not properly referenced as having a strong claim to passing inclusion criteria for filmmakers. As always, film directors are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because their films exist -- notability is not inherited, so the notability test requires evidence of significance, supported by WP:GNG-worthy reliable sourcing about them and their work.
But existence is the only notability claim being attempted here, the article is completely unsourced, and even the films listed in his filmography are almost all direct-to-video B-movies whose articles are also not properly sourced as passing our notability criteria for films either.
Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to pass GNG on his sourceability. Bearcat (talk) 16:32, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Could you help finding references instead of asking for deletion? Which are suitable reference websites for this? There are several homonyms, so looking for the proper references is difficult. Yann (talk) 19:15, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Meets WP:DIRECTOR, which states: ""People are likely to be notable if they meet any of the following standards (..)The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series)". That is the case for various films he directed. But the nominator was right concerning the sourcing at the time of nomination, the page was unsourced. Not the case anymore: I’ve added a few things for verification and coverage about him and his films in independent reliable sources; fwiw, am willing to improve the article when I have more time.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:52, 24 November 2023 (UTC) (edited Nov, 27)[reply]
  • Thanks a lot for the help with references. Yann (talk) 12:45, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Yann: thank you for creating the page. Just a note: what homonyms are you referring to above? Don't you want to delete that bit, as I think it might belong to some other discussion? (I forgot which but I seem to remember another ongoing Afd somewhere!). Of course, feel free to leave it if you think it's important but if so, you might want to elaborate so that everyone (including me, I confess) may understand what you mean. Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:13, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Half of the 10 first hits of [1] seems to concern another Louis Morneau. Yann (talk) 20:23, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OK! Thanks for clarifying. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:01, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 02:56, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Please assess the article in light of recent expansion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:26, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Meets WP:DIRECTOR, body of work seems to be well known for multiple reasons including for direct-to-video movies including sequels. Verifiability is not a problem thanks to expansion by Mushy Yank (with help from other editors). Given the era and the coverage that exists online, likely to be many print-only sources as well. —siroχo 04:19, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.