Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of ultra-light sport vehicles of the 2010s

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The result was delete. Sandstein 17:00, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

List of ultra-light sport vehicles of the 2010s[edit]

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The main issue with this list is that it is bordering on original research (WP:OR), unsourced (a majority of them) (WP:VERIFY), an arbitrary dump list (WP:INDISCRIMINATE) for any sub 1200kg sports cars; also how is a Harley Davidson cruiser ultra-light or a Piaggio moped a sport vehicle. Also why are we having some top-end sports cars in this list when they do not belong there. Throw in some sportbikes and this proves my criticism and why 2010 when lightweight sport vehicles had existed since the dawn of the sport vehicles. Donnie Park (talk) 10:25, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:01, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:01, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:01, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:33, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and improve, tentatively. Why not just improve it. 1. I just removed the bikes section. 2. Why not change scope to be list of ultr light sport vehicles of all time, not just the 2010s. There are sources. How do you want to define the term differently? --do ncr am 11:19, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You could have a go but question is how the Ultima is an ultralight? Is the Porsche 550 an ultralight? In what way an Noble M400 and McLaren F1 an ultralight? Because that is included because of it's weight, what about the 1990s GT1 race homologated cars (Toyota GT1, Mercedes CLK-GTR), are they? Are we going to include every Lotus 7 wannabes out there as well as the huge number of kit cars that is, thus will become the list of kit cars. Why are we including concept cars in this list when we have no idea how light they are going to be nor its' performance data? As with classifying them, unless there is a Euro Car Segment class for such, it borders on original research and arbitary; hence why I stick to my decision. Also as due to safety standards, cars will get bigger and heavier and most of these web articles are far too arbitrary as they have no official criteria and just make them up because it's an web article to interest readers, they have their own idea what ultra light is such as the inclusion of the Mazda MX-5, Renault Twizy and McLaren F1, thus you can catch why this article is being nominated for deletion. Donnie Park (talk) 12:07, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning Delete because I'm having trouble with the fact that this is a "list of ultra-light sport vehicles"...but almost none of the sources it cites actually use that term. It's easy to google "ultra-light" and find hits, of course, but it's also easy to find hits for "super light", "very light", "extremely light", etc. and I'm having trouble finding out how this is not original research. What we need are plenty of reliable sources which use the term in exactly the same way. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 22:19, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:35, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 01:55, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete OR and also kind of a directory. Borock (talk) 11:44, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as there's nothing to actually convince there can be a convincing article for the separate 2010 thus delete; easily can be mentioned elsewhere. SwisterTwister talk 06:35, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nominator. Original research and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Luke J.^talk 15:09, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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